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  #1  
11-02-2005, 11:01 PM
esok86
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Internet Tells

Hey... does anybody have any secrets about internet tells?
 

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  #2  
11-02-2005, 11:12 PM
Heshkak
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Location: Canada
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The funny thing about the internet is that there are no "physical" tells. The only tells you can pick up on is if you watch the betting patterns and the speed that they make their bets. However, these can't be followed to a "T" because the guy might just be getting back from the bathroom, and that's why he took longer to bet.
  #3  
12-02-2005, 5:08 PM
Duke14
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I play at the same site with same players mostly. Kinda get a "feel" after playing with same ones for so long. But really, there are no tells on internet gambling- just a bunch of "loose cannons". LOL
  #4  
13-02-2005, 10:51 PM
diezel99
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Good info thanx
  #5  
14-02-2005, 5:57 AM
RussGriffith
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Location: Ebensburg PA
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Quote:
But really, there are no tells on ...internet gambling- just a bunch of "loose cannons". LOL
Haha, you said it Duke. They should overhaul the opnline poker rooms to eliminate these people. They take more money than I can make off them.
  #6  
14-02-2005, 4:57 PM
harrington
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Location: California
Posts: 33
i met a bunch of people who have the "lock" n figuring internet tells.. I dont believe it.. betting parterns, and pure disbelief (or naivety) is there only reason for calling with A high.. Not there dramatic read of the Online tell.

There are no good hole cards, only bad flops,
HarringtonJ
  #7  
15-02-2005, 4:25 PM
charterboss
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Location: baudette MN
Posts: 55
I also play on the same sites with the same people alot--and you can get a feel for some players,,but just when we get it figured out the stlye changes,,and after chatting with them you find out it is someone else playing under their name--I agree with the loose cannon statement-- i have been known to fire off a few shots also--
  #8  
18-02-2005, 10:46 PM
Benimaru
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I think the biggest tell could be speed and patterns. Some people won't mix up their pair and will always raise the same amount with pocket pair. Some people will always check if they hit their set and will reraise the same amount.
  #9  
19-02-2005, 10:21 PM
sss2005
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Plays at: Noble Poker
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Do not even think of tells such as time between bets, etc. when playing on the internet. You will gain absolutely nothing from trying it. Watch the others players and you'll notice who routinely overbets junk hands, etc. If it's a rebuy tourney, watch for the players who bet aggressively continuously until they finally double up. You can make get alot of chips from these guys.
  #10  
20-02-2005, 1:36 AM
GACitron
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The best way I have picked up tells via internet gambling is simply watching. There are many people out there that will bet on every hand delt. Watch them, nine times out of ten they never make it to the river as they bluff the competition with extreme bets. Look at the flops, what can they be betting? Watch for people to call them to the end, take a look at their cards. The reveal mixed with their betting patterns will tell you a lot about them. In tourneys I have seen people go all in to double in chips only to find they were holding 4 7 off. These are the people to watch out for since they will play every hand and are the number one way to make easy money if you have patience. Watch the blind bets too. Some will try to steal the blinds on button, when the flop hits they may check. Also the number one tell (dont take this to heart as some people use it to lure you in) is when someone may bet high on the flop, then a straight draw comes up on the turn and they lower their bets. This could show you uncertainty where you may be able to capatalize off of later.
  #11  
20-02-2005, 5:14 PM
-GAVIN-
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Generally speaking, on the internet if you are checked to on the internet and u make an average bet and you are RE-RAISED then almost nine times out of ten they will have hit a set and trying to trap you.
  #12  
28-02-2005, 11:40 AM
themyst
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re: Internet Tells

The one thing that I cannot stress enough about playing NL cash games online is to TAKE NOTES!!!! Document what kind of hands the raiser shows down, what they play, what they call with, and HOW they bet. If a player will make pot sized bets when hes holding a big pair, but check when he hit his set, its pretty easy to let your hand go. If a player frequently check-raises on a bluff, you can call him down with less than marginal hands. If a player that normally calls,folds,raises quickly, but all of a sudden he takes his time before he raises, you can be sure hes trying to decide how much to raise his big pair. These aren't absolute rules, but just a few tips on how to read opponents.
  #13  
02-03-2005, 4:36 PM
UncleLes
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rule of thumb

All good advice so far. Just to add to that: the best way to play is tight but aggressive. Even more important on the internet than on real tables is betting hard before the flop when you have nice pockets. Too many times, hapless players get lucky on the turn or river and screw you out of your pocket queens or whatever. You need to scare them off early.
  #14  
02-03-2005, 8:03 PM
charterboss
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Location: baudette MN
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i'm sure i have alot of tells but--i seem to play different all the time--tight some days more aggressive others..but i do mix up the speed on my bets most of the time --and with the speed mix I change the bet levels --so I guess in reality it looks more liked the true fact that i'm just confused --lol
  #15  
03-03-2005, 1:42 AM
cranck
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Location: Northern Denmark
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Tight to the extreme and watch betting patterns. You will almost ALWAYS have call machines ready to donate money to you and if you're lucky, you'll have call machines wanting to see the river. Apart from that, theres just about every type available, imo.

-caf
  #16  
07-03-2005, 4:13 PM
PattyG
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NOPE none... Everyone keeps tellin me that the key is patience...mixed with a lil luck of course!!!
  #17  
07-03-2005, 9:11 PM
chin146099
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1. I use the notes button as much as possible. You start to see the same people time after time at the freerolls and keeping tabs on there patterns and cards they play is always helpful. I also look to see who betting quickly and also who has pre checked the call button...those are the players I want out.
  #18  
13-03-2005, 12:59 PM
2LoCo4U
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The Only Way I See Any Sign Of A Tell Is Just By The Way The Person Bets....Just Gotta Watch How They Bet , How Much They Bet And When They Win , What Cards They Have.
  #19  
13-03-2005, 2:36 PM
superkmac72
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pre- action tells

You can also gain a tell on certain people if they raise or call reely quickly, they probably checked the box at the bottom of the screen. I often find the strenght of som1's hand this way
  #20  
13-03-2005, 3:29 PM
BatistaJJ
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Jesus once informed me once when walking through the garden of Eden that there are no tells in internet poker! So there you go straight from the man himself!
  #21  
13-03-2005, 7:57 PM
mr. flanders
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i like too watch for people useing the auto bet call raise button because it its very fast. I have notice in my case anyways that thay might take their time on a hand with a rasie in front and maybe thay don't have it. All in all ther is no tells just betting patterns. You need to be able to change gears!
  #22  
14-03-2005, 2:08 AM
thegamer1972
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it would be cool

it would be cool if there was like a way to use webcams and watch who ur playing against
  #23  
15-03-2005, 9:10 PM
toead
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Plays at: ultimate bet
Posts: 23
tells

yeah i tend to just watch what cards people play and mentally keep track of how each player plays certain cards before the flop, draw, etc. But it gets tough because online it's sometimes not possible to see the same people on the bigger sites
  #24  
15-03-2005, 10:14 PM
sorcerer_
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re: Internet Tells

Quote:
Originally Posted by superkmac72
You can also gain a tell on certain people if they raise or call reely quickly, they probably checked the box at the bottom of the screen. I often find the strenght of som1's hand this way
well.. there are also players who just think fast .. I don't like pondering too much ... it's in or out
also, time si different between a high-speed internet connection and dial-up ... so, you can't really tell
  #25  
15-03-2005, 10:32 PM
ThECreWKiLLa
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betting patterns are the best, always try and see who are the aggressive players and who are the tight players i think thats the best way to figure people out.
  #26  
17-03-2005, 11:31 PM
hess
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You might not get a whole lot of tells online, but you should take detailed notes of many players. This is a huge advantage when going up against a player. It can save you a pot you would have folded in or save you a bet you would have called.
  #27  
18-03-2005, 4:54 AM
superdave
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Betting patterns are just about it. Time is not consistant because you have no idea if the player was distracted or is in the middle of doing something. I get delayed sometimes by my kids, but it doesn't mean that I'm thinking long about the hand.
  #28  
18-03-2005, 10:50 AM
Zubris
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Location: Riga/Latvia
Plays at: pokerstars
Posts: 58
there are no real tells in internet.. i maybe there is but then they are very hard to know.. cuz there are many factors while players do their actions
  #29  
18-03-2005, 2:19 PM
TeddieKGB121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heshkak
The funny thing about the internet is that there are no "physical" tells. The only tells you can pick up on is if you watch the betting patterns and the speed that they make their bets. However, these can't be followed to a "T" because the guy might just be getting back from the bathroom, and that's why he took longer to bet.
There are certain internet tells that you can tell though. If you take long and look hesitant before a bet and then call... if the player is the aggressive type he'll raise the after the flop and so forth. On the river you raise him all-in and he'll think you're buying the pot when in reality you have a monster.

-Karl
  #30  
18-03-2005, 2:20 PM
TeddieKGB121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superdave
Betting patterns are just about it. Time is not consistant because you have no idea if the player was distracted or is in the middle of doing something. I get delayed sometimes by my kids, but it doesn't mean that I'm thinking long about the hand.
I think the biggest tells are differentiating the aggressive players from the conservative players. Do that and you're ahead of the game.

Karl
  #31  
18-03-2005, 2:23 PM
TeddieKGB121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. flanders
i like too watch for people useing the auto bet call raise button because it its very fast. I have notice in my case anyways that thay might take their time on a hand with a rasie in front and maybe thay don't have it. All in all ther is no tells just betting patterns. You need to be able to change gears!
after reading a few posts on here... I was wondering is there a difference between calls and betting patterns or are they the same thing
  #32  
18-03-2005, 2:24 PM
TeddieKGB121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by charterboss
i'm sure i have alot of tells but--i seem to play different all the time--tight some days more aggressive others..but i do mix up the speed on my bets most of the time --and with the speed mix I change the bet levels --so I guess in reality it looks more liked the true fact that i'm just confused --lol
I think the first 5-6 hands of any tournament are a poor indicator of any tells though because people have a tendancy to go all-in with a decent hand in the beginning because they have nothing to lose by doing so early in a tournament.

-Karl
  #33  
18-03-2005, 5:56 PM
iveyfan30
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basically its betting pattern,,other than that its hard to pick up anything online...so thats what i look for...
  #34  
18-03-2005, 8:01 PM
Poker Jill
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Plays at: Hollywood
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There are not many tells when playing online poker. As was mentioned a bunch of times above, the best ways is speed and betting. Players will have patterns when they bet, raise and call. It's difficult to notice at a full table, but in a small table these become alittle noticeable. Also, keeping notes are a good idea. On Hollywood you can actually click on the player and add a note about their playing style, pretty useful!

But don't forget, some players can change style at any time and the "tell" may be a dud !!!
  #35  
19-03-2005, 6:36 AM
pokerdude836
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Location: ohio
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I dont even try to figure how everyone else plays. just play the cards i`m dealt and try not make stupid mistakes. usually know right away whether to bet check raise or fold. just a feeling most of the time.
 

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