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  Poker - I can't beat $10NL
 
  #141  
07-03-2008, 12:47 AM
aliengenius
Putting the AG in LAG
 
Location: Buffalo NY
Plays at: CC LB games
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I hate poker.

FullTiltPoker Game #5527027161: Table Rock Springs - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:34:03 ET - 2008/03/06
Seat 1: FunkyMonkey69 ($23.55)
Seat 2: 1adi1 ($0), is sitting out
Seat 3: evienneau ($7)
Seat 4: Scott Hall AZ ($8.65)
Seat 5: aliengenius ($9.90)
Seat 6: AAdm66 ($1.85)
Seat 7: Aussie4beer ($6.90)
Seat 8: Poloten4ik ($10), is sitting out
Seat 9: coloniaruben ($15.60)
evienneau posts the small blind of $0.05
Scott Hall AZ posts the big blind of $0.10
1adi1: ah nochn deutscher hi
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [Qs Ah]
aliengenius calls $0.10
AAdm66 folds
Aussie4beer folds
coloniaruben calls $0.10
FunkyMonkey69 folds
evienneau folds
1adi1: tja dann isses ja halb so schlimm
coloniaruben: natürlich
Aussie4beer: i got rather lucky on the turn
Scott Hall AZ has 15 seconds left to act
coloniaruben: woher kommse?
Scott Hall AZ raises to $0.45
1adi1: aus baden würtemberg
aliengenius calls $0.35
coloniaruben folds
*** FLOP *** [As Jc 5d]
Scott Hall AZ bets $1.05
1adi1: bei heidelberg
1adi1: un du
aliengenius has 15 seconds left to act
aliengenius calls $1.05
*** TURN *** [As Jc 5d] Q♦
Scott Hall AZ bets $3.15
coloniaruben: köln wiemein name verrät
aliengenius raises to $6.30
Scott Hall AZ raises to $7.15, and is all in
aliengenius calls $0.85
Scott Hall AZ shows [Qh Qc]
aliengenius shows [Qs Ah]
*** RIVER *** [As Jc 5d Qd] 8♠
Scott Hall AZ shows three of a kind, Queens
aliengenius shows two pair, Aces and Queens
Scott Hall AZ wins the pot ($15.75) with three of a kind, Queens
aliengenius: omg
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.45 | Rake $1.70
Board: [As Jc 5d Qd 8s]
Seat 1: FunkyMonkey69 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: 1adi1 (button) is sitting out
Seat 3: evienneau (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Scott Hall AZ (big blind) showed [Qh Qc] and won ($15.75) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: aliengenius showed [Qs Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 6: AAdm66 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Aussie4beer didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Poloten4ik is sitting out
Seat 9: coloniaruben folded before the Flop


FullTiltPoker Game #5523141976: Table Homestretch - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:19:18 ET - 2008/03/06
Seat 1: Yvi3112 ($9.75)
Seat 2: Foffo ($12.55)
Seat 3: Freyzer ($5.80)
Seat 4: Ligareaux ($14.95)
Seat 5: Trueden2 ($4)
Seat 6: mrmrsbenny ($4.45)
Seat 7: rugfiend ($14.95)
Seat 8: jange1904 ($10.15)
Seat 9: aliengenius ($9.90)
jange1904 posts the small blind of $0.05
aliengenius posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aliengenius [Qd Kc]
Yvi3112 calls $0.10
Foffo folds
Freyzer folds
Ligareaux folds
Trueden2 folds
mrmrsbenny folds
rugfiend calls $0.10
jange1904 folds
aliengenius checks
*** FLOP *** [8c Qc 4h]
aliengenius bets $0.35
Yvi3112 folds
rugfiend raises to $0.70
aliengenius calls $0.35
*** TURN *** [8c Qc 4h] K
aliengenius checks
rugfiend has 15 seconds left to act
rugfiend bets $1
aliengenius raises to $9.10, and is all in
rugfiend calls $8.10
aliengenius shows [Qd Kc]
rugfiend shows [Ks Kh]
*** RIVER *** [8c Qc 4h Kd] 6♣
aliengenius shows two pair, Kings and Queens
rugfiend shows three of a kind, Kings
rugfiend wins the pot ($18) with three of a kind, Kings
aliengenius adds $10
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $19.95 | Rake $1.95
Board: [8c Qc 4h Kd 6c]
Seat 1: Yvi3112 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Foffo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Freyzer didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Ligareaux didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Trueden2 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: mrmrsbenny didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: rugfiend (button) showed [Ks Kh] and won ($18) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 8: jange1904 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: aliengenius (big blind) showed [Qd Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
 

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  #142  
07-03-2008, 1:03 AM
Deathwish238
Advanced Member
 
Location: Austin
Plays at: Pokerstars
Likes: Hold 'Em
Posts: 121
Here's what I'm noticing...you're betting big.

If the pot is $1 and you flop top pair...I'ld bet $0.65 - $0.70, not $1. Why reraise all in? It doesn't give you any information that you can then react to. Simply betting out would have shown that you have something. Plus, you want him to call...not to fold given your information at the time. I'ld have bet 2/3rd the pot again. If he's a decent player he would have just called and reraised all in on the river where you may or may not have thought he tripped or hit a straight.

A bit of bad luck isn't helping you...but being super aggressive doesn't help either. This isn't a tournament where what you did would have been normalcy.
  #143  
07-03-2008, 3:55 AM
aliengenius
Putting the AG in LAG
 
Location: Buffalo NY
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I guess I don't understand how you stack someone then. I am not folding here, and expect to get called by QJo, etc.
  #144  
07-03-2008, 11:18 AM
Four Dogs
deadinaditch
 
Posts: 2,873
I don't like the shove either AG. I agree, your not folding but the RR otf should be enough to slow you down. Some degree pot size control was in order here. The KK was a little hard to put him on considering the UTG limp, but disguising a strong hand isn't unheard of. Not unlike the previous hand where you did the same w/AQ.
Quote:
Originally Posted by aliengenius
I guess I don't understand how you stack someone then.
Like this.

Seat 7: rugfiend (button) showed [Ks Kh] and won ($18) with three of a kind, Kings
  #145  
07-03-2008, 11:53 AM
ColoradoAvsFan
Junior Member
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
Plays at: Full Tilt
Likes: Omaha
Posts: 24
Those are some pretty bad losses, AG. I have only been playing about a year, but those hands you posted above are truly betting hands. No matter what you bet, you would have been all-in on the river anyway. The best thing to do here is to look at it from the other guys perspective. He beat a good hand with a great hand. You had good, solid hands.

You previously wrote you folded a QQ pf for reason. If anything is to be learned here, is to temper your bet so you can get a read. Obviously your competition isn't going to fold, and may just call any of your bets UNLESS you bet down at the turn. Then you MAY get a feel for the strength of their hand. Even so, my outcome at this table would have been the same as yours.

I rarely get beat like this at PS or Bodog for some reason, only at FTP.

May the poker gods smile upon your stack!!
  #146  
07-03-2008, 8:14 PM
Rushstreet
Junior Member
 
Plays at: Bodog
Likes: Hold em NL
Posts: 16
Its hard to beat a game where its a bunch of calling stations unless you are extrmely patient IMO.
  #147  
11-03-2008, 5:31 AM
bustme
Expert Member
 
Posts: 259
You cant play LAG on most of the tables on 10 NL...

My advice is that you find tables who are tight where you can bully around. ( avoid the small stakes, even if they have tight stats they are more donky than full stacks)
  #148  
15-03-2008, 10:28 PM
tenbob
Dead Man
 
Location: The high sea's
Plays at: pokerstars
Likes: Holdem
Posts: 5,615
Any chance of a PokerEV graph AG ? Just to see if you actually suck or if your just running bad.

Still no HA threads either.
  #149  
15-03-2008, 11:50 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
VOTE MCBAIN '08
 
Location: Birmingham, UK
Plays at: Stars
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Posts: 8,136
the problem with pokerev is is doesn't take coolers into account. a lot of these hands posted seem to be coolers, so wile i wouldn't be surprised to see a 'running around about expectancy' graph, it's not necessarily representative of suckage without a pretty huge sample size.

that said, graph would be nice.
  #150  
15-03-2008, 11:59 PM
vanquish
When it rains, it pours.
 
Posts: 5,396
call button is your friend
  #151  
16-03-2008, 2:42 AM
Poker Orifice
Advanced Member
 
Location: B.C. Canada
Plays at: Fulltilt
Likes: NLHE
Posts: 186
I think I just suck in ring games. Probably cuz I just don't like them that much. I prefer tournament play,.. MTT's or Sng's single table.

Took me awhile to realize I had to commit more $$ to my poker accounts cuz for awhile I would try to profit off of very low buy-in tables. Hard to relate to so much of the play there and have found it far better to play on higher buy-in tables, where I can at least analyze what my opponents are doing and why (hard to make sense of a player who doesn't even know what he's doing,.. never mind try to figure out what he's doing and why,.. he doesn't even know why, lol).

Find the tables on Stars to be softer than Fulltilt and prefer Fulltilt ($5 & $10 sng's). Because my bankroll is still nowhere near what I'd like it to be (wanting to be playing in bigger, better games, ie. $26 to $75 buy-in) I've been playing in some token satellites so I can manage to get onto better tables. So far,.. not so great, lol. Only a matter of time till I hit it and can stay in that range on a regular basis,... have many friends who have gone about it this way as well (yah,.. .till I lose it all, lol).

GL,.. hope you stick to beating the one's you like to beat the most. If I don't particularly like it,.. I'm never going to excel in it. Just how it works for me with all things.
  #152  
16-03-2008, 3:05 AM
jaketrevvor
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Location: Rainy Olde England
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Posts: 1,405
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Orifice
Find the tables on Stars to be softer than Fulltilt and prefer Fulltilt
I don't get it.
  #153  
16-03-2008, 3:13 AM
NoWuckingFurries
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Posts: 1,741
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaketrevvor
I don't get it.
Hence your sig?
 



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