How to play: K6,k7,k8,q4,q5,q6,q7

Anyone want to offer an analysis on these types of hands? I am playing in 1/2 NL cash games with decent players, some tight, some loose..overall no donkeys...just started playing with moderate success...BUT I get these hands a lot, suited or unsuited Ks,Qs,Js with mid cards: 4,5,6,7....thanks.

I don't play those hands unless I am in the blinds, but I am a nit to a degree.

Why do you choose to play these cards only in the blinds? do you just check, if there has been no raise?

BTW, I love Cape cod, worked in Mashpee at a 4H camp for a summer!

because those hands are very mediocre and just not really profitable. Yeah we'd probably look to check these kind of hands through

Those are trouble hands, you may hit the painted card and then be out kicked. Like I said I will just check em in the blinds but usually end up folding.
I play full ring though, I know you can be a little looser in 6max but I don't think that loose.

Glad to hear you love Cape Cod and I work in the Mashpee Commons now.

I like to bet K8 because I see them together so much. I like to bet on them in any position, preferably suited, because I've had decent wins with them. Certainly not scientific but then I tend to be a gut player anyway. The K with 5 - 7 are more subject to position, certainly not in an early position, but later. You would expect K9 would be a good bet because at least they will complete a K high straight. But then the A always comes along and kills it for me. If I was you I wouldn't shy away from playing anything with a K in it - but you have to consider your position and what has been going on in the game - tight - loose - crazy.

If you're playing these on the button, while suited, I mean it's really marginal. People will argue about whether or not to play them, but it's most likely a pretty neutral EV play whether you fold or raise it to play a pot in position.

Obviously if you have a good chance to take the blinds, just raise them and see how it goes. Raising these hands helps widen your range as well (like you need that on the button, lol) but it does, which can get you more value for solid holdings.

If you're having trouble with them though, which you likely are since you're asking about them, just throw them away. If you don't know how to continue after hitting your King or Queen, then you're going to end up making bad plays and costing yourself money.

The most difficult thing with those hands are the situation of when you flop top pair against an agressive oppenent. You will lose some pots if you hit a pair. Personally, I'll fold those hands, but if I'm in the blind and hit a pair I'll play it cautiously.

Pooffy said it all, i know i have lost big pots, with them. I have also knocked out players for playing, raising with crap like that..
Suited, i may raise with them, but only well in position.

are u the real krantz?

+1.

Dont call with these only raise or fold. Raise only in a tight (non donk) table in LP maybe MP if you have been card dead, players (once again non donk and observant players that is) will respect your raise and your continuation bet after the flop even if you completely miss. Otherwise fold (95% time).

I don't play them at all-- unless I'm on the button and am raising against only the blinds. But I dump them if I get re-raised. They are trouble hands. Even when you land 2 pair, they can be trouble. There are times when one can raise with any crap, once one has established a very tight image -- but you don't want any action.

I tnd not to play these type hands very often,unless I am in great position such as blinds and have very good reads on people at the table.
They are mostly hands I would just muck.
Only play them once in a great while,even in position I rarley play them facing a raise.

I think the key is to understand that you can be getting crushed even if you pair your k/q...so, retreat and fold from raises-reraises unless you have the nuts or a great read.

But, there are definitely times you can play these hands...

from the button
limping from the blinds
if you are in late position and have a couple of limpers before you...i think you can raise with these hands
if a short stack (10% of your stack or less) seems tilted and keeps going all in, i think you can call with these hands in a one on one situation

um... I fold them.

those hands scare me, i will only play them in the blinds,there are so many other hands that are beating u.i would put in a small raise after the flop and see where i am,any raise i fold, any call i check.

not worth going broke with hands like that

Lazmansa

fold that unless u are in the blinds or u are in late position and u plan on outplaying the other persons

I have been experimenting with a looser game and have added these types of hands to raise with in cutoff or button position only. If anyone raises in front, fold. If anyone limps in front, I'll see the flop for cheap with suited kx only. I'll also complete from the SB when I get the chance.

On a side note, I have found that it is ALOT easier to play these types of hands after I have won a couple of pots via showdowns. Seems like I get credit for hands for awhile, even though I like to raise with junk late.

call me a nit but if i usually fold all unsuited 7 gappers. i might open for 2.5xBB w/the K8s but that the cutoff.

-- you could shove allin to try to induce a misclick.

these hands only end up loosing in the long run so y play them

as said before...playing these hands is easy...FOLD

cheers and gl
wooter

^^ perfect.

Have u got the balls to re-raise a loose guy with these hands? K6s mite jus b enough to push him off a hand. And if u hit the board with TP then u mite b beatin his JJ

Excellent question.,Perhaps reading up on some strategy will help,mostly I fold these cards but I know some are winners.I get a feel for the *game mostly.Ive done well at the 50c/1 level so somethings workin right.But I do apply position/ and a few other tricks of the game,plus I move alot,Dont stay at a losing table and try to get your money back.Its been awhile since I did a $1 ring game(prefer badbeat tables) tho,but reading up,doing my homework paid off last time I played.

unsuited fold. fold. fold. fold. fold. fold.
suited late position limp, limp, limp, limp, limp,

i agree with greywind, u'll lose more money than gain with those hands.

limping is bad

get out unless the pot odds are way too good to pass up.

In late position and unlikely to get raised behind, you can play them. But unless the flop hits you in two places, the hand goes in the muck. But, if you catch and show, then you get labelled as a donk, which could be beneficial later.

Most of the times these are useless hands, they have less than a 12-15% chance of winning in a preflop situation.

Now, if you are playing on the right table, with the right group of players you can use these hands to make steals at the blinds.

Sometimes (especially with a big chip stack) I will let myself bluff away some chips with these type of hands just to show how 'loose' I am. Next time I have a real hand I get some good action.

What site do you play on and where are you sitting?....cause I would love to play you right now haha (kidding)....and Julie do a report of hands like k6 Q6 etc....you'll probably be surprised on how much you've lost on them....they aren't profitable unless maybe you're playing hu...

Generally best to simply fold these hands. I suppose if you're on the button or small blind, you might want to use a standard raise and try to take down the blinds. However, you're not likely to know what to do against a caller, even if you flop top pair, and will almost certainly need to fold a raise.

Suited in late position with not raise Ks K8 all the way down to K2 is an acceptable play. You might even argue folding K9 or K10 if you are on a really tight aggressive table.

Unsuited in the same position it is an easy fold.

Middle position suited or not easy fold.

Early position you might mix it up once in a while with a raise to steal the blinds. But mostly it is an easy fold.

BB no raise check.

SB no raise call.

Min raise from SB or BB. The best option is to fold. You are in a terrible position ofer the flop, and as the others had said, if you hit top par you have kicker issues to contend with.

wow, I don't even know where to begin!!! First off you are asking about 2nl, there are no good 2nl players and that's where you are probably confused. The hands you are asking about are for advanced players playing in a lot higher stakes with other advanced players. I think you have been watching too much poker on TV and you have a misconception of the game. You are not good enough to know when to play these hands and against what type of players. I'm not talking down to you, I don't play these hands often at all nor do I play stakes where you can play these hands profitably. You are either going to win a small pot with these hands or wind up chasing a flush for incorrect odds with these hands and losing a big pot. In the long run at these stakes you are losing money playing these hands.

Get these hands out of your range, Hell if you aren't folding k2 suited, then what are you folding??? If you are an action player, play hands that can turn into big hands like suited connectors giving you straight and flush possibilities. K2 suited, what are you going to do with that? Hope you flop a flush or a flush draw? they are just hands that are going to cost you a lot of money to hit and when you do hit most opponents aren't stupid and they aren't going to pay you off. So chasing the flush has horrible implied odds, because your opponent knows you are chasing the flush. If he knows what he's doing, he's giving you the wrong odds to chase your flush, so when you actually hit your flush it's not going to pay for the times when you don't hit your flush. Does that make sense?

Get rid of the garbage hands at this level. Learn how to use your position to maximize profit. Learn what pot odds and implied odds are and slowly build your game that way. The biggest leak players have at these levels is they play way to many hands!!! And just by your OP I can tell that you play way too many hands!!!

I useally try to steal blinds at them, or try to semi bluff it down at the flop.
If we make it to the turn you can be 90% sure your hand is beaten.
Unless you get extremely lucky and would hit a full house or a set right on the flop.

Actually playing these hands a few times is actually a good thing. (I said few times, not all the time)
It will give other people the image of you being a loose player. If you then switch back to tightness play they might expect your bluffing or simply limped in again with a garbage hand. basicly setting them a trap.