How much would you raise here?

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  #1
21st August 2009, 11:01 PM
kingme620
 
How much would you raise here?

2/5 full ring. No limpers, late position. I am stuck between raising .20 or .25.

Maybe .25 in very late position and .20 in earlier positions? I don't see many callers of .30 or more on full tilt.
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  #2
21st August 2009, 11:40 PM
TriggaLos
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: Holdem
3x or 4x is standard. Don't vary your raise size preflop unless you have limpers in front of you. then add one x. You will start to form habits which can turn into tells if you raise 4x sometimes and 5x other times. Also, think about your raises, if your standard raise is 5x you are going to have a lot tighter range calling you. Meaning the only ones calling your high 5x raise are going to be those that are ahead of you preflop. Stick to the 3 to 4x.
  #3
22nd August 2009, 7:59 AM
kingme620
 
I mean for this specific limit what do other grinders find is the best min. raise amount. For example, when playing 1/2 on most sites a standard and often called raise is 6-8x. 2/5 isn't far off.

I guess I'll just stick with .20 for 2/5. But isn't it generally true that I should raise more in late position?
  #4
22nd August 2009, 8:45 AM
TriggaLos
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingme620
I mean for this specific limit what do other grinders find is the best min. raise amount. For example, when playing 1/2 on most sites a standard and often called raise is 6-8x. 2/5 isn't far off.

I guess I'll just stick with .20 for 2/5. But isn't it generally true that I should raise more in late position?

Only vary your raise size if there are limpers in front of you, usually in late position there are limpers in front of you. It's doesn't matter what the average is for the limit. 3x is always standard. Sometimes 4x is standard on a table. Just depends what the table you are sitting at is doing.
  #5
22nd August 2009, 11:40 AM
spiderman637
 
Plays at: carbon
Game: HOLDEM
re: How much would you raise here? poker

u did not read poker books???
any ways, allways raise 4 times the big blind+times the no. of people called the bigblind...

this is the best way to raise according to many poker pros and books...

i followed it and been successful
hope you to try it pal...
  #6
23rd August 2009, 1:14 AM
kingme620
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TriggaLos
Only vary your raise size if there are limpers in front of you, usually in late position there are limpers in front of you. It's doesn't matter what the average is for the limit. 3x is always standard. Sometimes 4x is standard on a table. Just depends what the table you are sitting at is doing.
Thanks!
  #7
23rd August 2009, 3:19 AM
FatBasset
 
Plays at: FullTilt
Game: holdem
I would follow the advice about raising given here if you don't know much about the table. However, if you can expect to be called by 2 or more people with a 3x raise from early position I would start increasing my raises consistently until you reduce the action you face to 1 or 2 callers. Last thing I want is to be out of position with a hand like AA or KK against 3 or more opponents.
  #8
23rd August 2009, 6:09 AM
doops
 
Plays at: FullTilt
Game: Limit holdem
I'd suggest doing the Ferguson Pre-flop Academy challenge. The concept there is to use standard raises for the playable hands in each position, with a varying bet depending on position only (not the cards). Play the challenge several times. (To get through it, you have to make a ton of raise-or-fold plays -- which is also a huge thing to train yourself to do.)

Now, I don't love raising AA 2xBB in early position as required-- but what often happened was that another player would reraise you, and you can then make sure it gets heads up.

It's a good challenge to systematically play preflop in a way that hides the strength of your hands, and see how that affects both your results and the response of the other players.
  #9
23rd August 2009, 10:11 PM
kingme620
 
I have started playing 9 or 10 tables (about 4k hands so far) so getting a system down was really important to me. I now raise at least 4x and one per limper, which gets me 1 or 2 callers.

But should I raise more based on position?
  #10
24th August 2009, 1:54 AM
TriggaLos
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: Holdem
re: How much would you raise here? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingme620
I have started playing 9 or 10 tables (about 4k hands so far) so getting a system down was really important to me. I now raise at least 4x and one per limper, which gets me 1 or 2 callers.

But should I raise more based on position?
No, how many times are you going to ask that?
  #11
24th August 2009, 2:02 AM
PooffyFooffy
 
Plays at: bodog
Game: Holdem
TriggaLos I've been playing poker more than you...so stop talking all big Son.
  #12
24th August 2009, 2:12 AM
TriggaLos
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by PooffyFooffy
TriggaLos I've been playing poker more than you...so stop talking all big Son.

Paybacks for the LOL's... LDO
  #13
24th August 2009, 2:16 AM
PooffyFooffy
 
Plays at: bodog
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by TriggaLos
Paybacks for the LOL's... LDO
But of course and I am still not done with you
  #14
24th August 2009, 2:44 AM
D'wilius
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingme620
I have started playing 9 or 10 tables (about 4k hands so far) so getting a system down was really important to me. I now raise at least 4x and one per limper, which gets me 1 or 2 callers.

But should I raise more based on position?
I like to raise a little more utg at 6max (but thats only 4x instead of 3x), same standard raise at every other position...a little more with limpers.
 



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