How much cash to sit down with?

How much cash to sit down with?
Hi,
I'm new to the forum but have read some great threads recently. I have been playing very low limit for a while, have done OK and have read some books and want to start working my way up the limits. I loved FP's 8 lessons!

My Question is how many BB worth of cash should you start at a table with. I have heard 100 x BB and that that your should have 25 times this for a bank roll. Is there any wisdow to sitting down with 50 x BB to lessen your losses while getting familiar with the table? That way if your forced all in before knowing who you are dealing with, you cut your losses and can add another 50BB if you get felted.

I'd love some opinions on this matter. WINAROO

Here is a good thread to start with to answer your question. And I'm sure you'll get some other responses here as well.

Thanks Jack,
That was a great thread for me!
WINAROO

I presume you're talking about no-limit? If it's limit, just make sure you're always sitting on more than 12 big bets (presuming that the cap is a bet and three raises) before every hand and everything else will work itself out. For no-limit, it depends on what you're trying to achieve and how experienced you are. But given that you're new enough to ask the question (not a bad thing, mind you), I'll say this: Several expert players recommend playing short-stacked when learning the ropes in NLHE. I'm not an expert, but I'm a decent parrot.

Happy new year,
FP

Here's another good thread regarding that:

Bankroll Psychology

IMHO, experts have their pat answer but it ultimately comes down to your own comfort as to how much you can stand to risk without changing your playing style or fearing tilt.

Thanks all for the great input! It's been helpful.
Winaroo

Back when I played limit the conventional wisdom was to sit down with 30 big bets and to have 300 big bets minimum for a bankroll. That worked pretty well for me except when I'd go nuts and move up a limit or two. My life in no-limit has been much better.

E

The general rule for NLHE is to have at least 20 full buyin's at the table.

For instance at .25/.50 blinds table, the max u can sit down with is 50 dollars. And 20 full buyin's (50 x 20) is 1,000. But like a poster above me said.. sometimes if you're not confident in your game, you shouldn't sit down with the full buy in.

I think in NLHE you should have more than 20 buyins, no matter how confident you are in your game. The only way to be truly successful in NLHE is to not play with scared money. I've learned the hard way.

E

haha.. i think we've all learned the hard way. But sometimes there's that gambler's mentality where it feels good in a weird way to sit down with scared money. I guess that's why I'm currently broke.

My rule of thumb for NL tables is to sit down with at least as much money than the best player you can beat!

For me it varies depending on the table I sit down at. In general I like to watch a table and see what the average pot size is. Then I notice how much of 'my money' I would need to play five - six of those pots to the river. If I am feeling good then I sit down with more money.
A major thing to consider is your bankroll though and how comfortable you are with your game. For new players I recommend buying in with the minimum buy in amount (play tight though) in hopes of being able to make those all in calls with minimal damage to your bankroll if you don't win them. Nothing hurts worse then making an all in call with a good portion of your bankroll just to lose it all.

personally i like to buy in with equivalent to the slightly greater than avg stack on the table...makes it easier on your self to see more flops

I'd agree with VM on this one, slightly greater than avg stack, but my personal advice is sit down with the table max!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the best strategy. It ultimately allows you to bet bluffs out the pot while having a big stack still if you get outdrawn etc.... With a big stack you can control the table easier with your raises. If you only have an average stack it'd be harder to differentiate you from anyone else on the table but with a large stack your the bully when your raising for example.

Its more of a mentality thing!

The other thing to remember is when you have your monster you want as much as possible from the pot! If you have an avg stack, and against someone with a higher one you're limiting your winnings...

Just my one two on this one...