How do you play the ignorant end of a straight

#1 13th July 2009, 9:35 PM

This came up in another thread. Say you check the BB with 23, and flop 456, with two suited cards. You have first action because the SB folded preflop. How are you going to play it.

#2 13th July 2009, 11:00 PM

Like always, it depends. In a raised pot against tight players, I would be confident the flop missed them and they have overcards, but against an aggressive player in late position who raised preflop and was first in, he could have anything, so I would play it cautiously. Of course there's a big difference having the ignorant end of a low straight and having the ignorant end of a high straight. I would be much more aggressive, in general, holding 23 and floping a 6 high straight, than holding 89, and floping a Q high straight, as players are more likely to be playing high cards than low cards.

#3 13th July 2009, 11:30 PM

I'd play that VERY careful with a flush draw and a higher strght possible on the board.
I would either 1/2 pot bet or just check/call in multi-way pot. Depends on how I'm running mostly.

#4 13th July 2009, 11:36 PM

If its nl holdem I would raise pot most of the time, or check-raise it.

#5 13th July 2009, 11:42 PM

I think this hand has great value vs most opponents. Dont chicken play this hand.

#6 14th July 2009, 2:38 AM

There are alot more twopairs, straight draws, flush draws, sets, top pairs, combo draws and overpairs out there then the higher straight.
I bet it like its the nuts until a 3 7 8 or flush card hits.

If I was in position I would try and get it in on a safe turn card for equity's sake, as I am not I just bet away.

#7 14th July 2009, 2:42 AM

depends on my opponents, cash game, tourny etc

too many details needed to answer this broad question

#8 14th July 2009, 3:57 AM

Lol, guilty of not reading em all, switch it to #3....oops

But on that flop, it's the nuts to me, so I'm looking to get stacks in as fast as possible.

#9 15th July 2009, 8:06 AM

Short stack, I would like to end the action postflop. Standard bet if raised all in.

#10 18th July 2009, 7:19 PM

I like the idea of betting the pot. Your out of position with the low end of a straight but a low card straight. So put the most pressure on your opps so they don't draw to the flush or top end of the straight cheaply. When you bet the pot and then your raised you have a better idea where you stand and hopefully your able to get away from the hand. This is my problem hard to release made hands.

#11 18th July 2009, 7:44 PM

i would slow play the str8 you should have put that down in the poll, it would be interesting to see what percent would pick it i love slow playing

#12 29th July 2009, 3:58 AM

i am betting it like its the nuts cause only one hand beats me however i reserve the right to fold if the action behind me goes raise and reraise big...lmao

#13 29th July 2009, 4:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulieK

This came up in another thread. Say you check the BB with 23, and flop 456, with two suited cards. You have first action because the SB folded preflop. How are you going to play it.

The proverbial rock and hard place. Take one good shot at this pot, then check it down.

Least that is how I like to think I'd play it, but the personnel at the table may dictate something totally different.

On the flop only 2 specific hands beat you, and one of them, 7-3, is highly unlikely. The 78 is a limpers fave type hand, so it is worth assigning some possibility to villain holding that, but personally I would at best only assign it like 30%, but again, what has your villains range been?

: How do you play the ignorant end
Cautious and looking for a reason to fold		4.17%
Careful and willing to fold if the remaining cards are bad		29.17%
Agressive, but able to fold if the remaining cards are bad		41.67%
Agressive but not crazy		16.67%
Bet it like it's the nuts		8.33%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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