How to build a br from 0$ on ftp

I'm not trying to be an asshole or a smart ass but this should help you out right here http://www.cardschat.com/faq.php

I think that if you are new to online poker playing freerolls for a while is the way to go. When I started, I deposited and lost quickly. But I stopped depositing and played freerolls almost every day for about 7 weeks. The experience was priceless. I can consistently place in the top ten percent and it helped me to cope with donkeys better. Now, I do much, much better and cash games.

Pixie

cool, so now you must have builded up a huge br? lol

It is working very well for me, although I am a bit impatient to get to the hight dollar tournaments.lol
Thanks for the advice.
(Shumla)

sweet keep building up and keep working on your patience. good job

shades of chris ferguson

i did that bob started on poker4ever with nothing and won one turney for 45. dollars and in less then a week am up to 61. dollars and change and just played in the one freeroll and won it and then playing in a few ring games.

Proud to be a Army Vet. Always remember to thank a vet for the freedom you have, it is because of them you have that freedom and be sure to thank them for it. Desert Strom 1991. US Army 1981-1993

There's also another way to make money out of nothing, well it's basically playing pokerstars play money tourneys. Then you can sell those for like 1$ per 100k play chips. You can make a lot when you play in those 80k tourneys and win first place, which gives you like 800k. So you could easily get like 8 bux by playing for 2 hours. Good deal I've done it all the time except pokerstars started to piss me off for a while so i kinda quit it lol. To sell the chips you just google sell pokerstars playchips and you'll find bunch of site. I'd recommand bigbadbullets.

basically 1 mill for 10$ and also might want to be careful looking up the sites on google. did this long time ago and got scammed. it a was complete joke so i wouldnt recommend doing this. plus its against pokerstars rules just so you know

Chris Ferguson's idea is good, if your a good player like him. FT free rolls (if you can get entered, they fill fast) are hard to cash in. They pay top 27 finishers, low odds for new players like me. CC freerolls are better by a mile than those .

Poker Stars doesn't really offer much either, 2 freerolls a day with tons of entries and low pay outs when you hit the bubble. CC freerolls are better here too. If you do get a little win there is a .10 turbo and .25, .50 tourneys here. Many options to win (or loose like me) your small winnings.

Bottom line is you play these free's and you will get better. Keep reading all the good strats posted here and in the end you will cash and really enjoy the games.

//zilla

This challenge is precisely what brought me back into online poker. Thanks for the additional thoughts on possible strategy Bob. I've got a lot of patience to build. I went from 0 to 21 in two days and then back down to 1.23 over the course of an hour... So any additional thoughts on keeping patience while you try to build that initial cushion would be great.

With my $6 5th place winnings I tried a 9 player $1 + .25 SnG... hand one AA, raised to 450 and was busted by a donk who reraised all in preflop with 8 10 off suit and hit a straight on the turn. So I didn't try those again. You're right about the level of play in these.

Instead went to a cash .05/.10 CAP NL game. That was where I got up over 20. And also where I lost down to 1.23 after playing late into the night...

I saw another thread about avoiding tilting (or, as I like to call it: Matusow disease)... that's my next stop. GL everyone on your road to building a bankroll.

I figured out a different kind of strategy on building my BR....Since so far I tend to only place, not taking down a first place in awhile, I decided to play the satellites. Win the entry to the next satellite, which ranges from 5 to 11 Tourney dollars, then withdraw from the game, and use that money towards different money makers or build up several 11 dollar tourney tickets. I built my bankroll from 0$ to 300$ in about 10 days. Then its up to me to turn my tourney $ (tickets) into real cash....seems to work out better for a person that makes the final table but just doesnt take it all the way. Plus with this money, you are able to play in games that you normally wouldn't stake. Earning points the whole way too....good luck!~july

I have tried your strategy quite awhile ago and have won and then moved on to different level of buy-ins. I have found that once oyu are able to do that if you can get into 30 dollar games your skill pays off. I think the 5 dollar games still has quite a bit of donkeys in them and luck is still mostly prevelant(luck never goes away in the game, luck always comes before the skill, my motto anyway).

Great tips Bob. Thanks for sharing.

I did it in Party Poker. First I won in freeroll 9 dollars and doubled it in money table to 19. I was really proud thinking, that now I'm in money, but - if I reached double bankroll, I meet with really bad problem - not any hands anymore or only systematical bad beats causing hands: fullhaus versus fullhaus, two pairs versus triple, triple and flush in one hand versus fullhaus etc. and this kind hans have destroyd most my second half br, and so from day to day. I have swiched table and seat, but nothing helps against this.

Do I something wrong, if I try continously play in moneytable? I think that this is not only my problem. I'm really thankful if someone can answer for my question, because doubling my bankroll in low limit table was really hard work, and I want not loose it.

In reality I'm tight and maybe even too conservative and cautious player but against this kind hands, if I can not from table see what is really going on I can not.

Regards,
xerx

PS. Sorry, if my english is little weird, but this is my fourth foreign language.

I think that is a great idea, but I also read somewhere in cardschat about winning without making a deposit. That you cant draw it out unless you make a minum deposit, before you win the ffree roll tournaments. And in order to get the money out you have to play several different hands before they will even give you cash credit for it. Think making a minum deposit and not using it and playing freerolls would be the best way to make sure the money you win is yours for the taking if you want to ever withdraw it. If you win a large amount and no deposit then you cant withdraw it.

this is probably something that varies from site to site. do you happen to know if they can hold your winnings if you made the deposit after you won the freeroll cash? and if so, which sites are this true on?

great postin the idea of making a bankroll from nothing sounds like a good challenge. im tempted to join a site i dont usualy play on and try my luck

I try do it once more. After 8 hours hard paly I won $ 50 freeroll in Ultimate Bet and now I have $ 10 starting capital + free ticket to $ 1000 freeroll.

But it is good idea on other site too. It shows which poker rooms are worth your deposit and which rooms are just sucking you out from money.

Greetings,
xerx

I have just started out playing poker and am a little unsure about putting money in yet untill i am a little more confident in my ability. Im going to try this. thanks for the advise. ;-)

I've started a b/r from scratch on full tilt and pokerstars. didn't win but a bunch of cashes. Anywhere from 30 cents to 20 bucks. Currently I have about 40 bucks in each and I am now venturing into the dollar sng's and playing some .05-.10 nl cash games.Both bank rolls are growing slowly and I still play the freerolls its good experience. It can be done. But you need to be patient "Rome wasn't built in a day" and neither will a bank roll. Also I waited till I got about 25 bucks before I played anything but freerolls.

I won $2 the other day in a freeroll. I am down to $0.70 which isn't enough to get into any game on Full Tilt. I do have the resources to credit my account but, I am trying to emulate Chris Ferguson. I think I will try your approach for a while so I can enter more tournaments. For some reason, I have always done better in tournaments than cash games. Have I mentioned How glad I am to have found this site? Allot of awsome information on here from people who know the game better than I.

That sounds lke a good plan.

As an update (and maybe some inspiration to those who are trying to get this strategy off the ground), I'm up to almost $9 on Full Tilt, funded purely by freeroll winnings.

It's taken me about three months to get to this stage - though signing up here and cashing in a CardsChat freeroll a fortnight ago was what really allowed me to get started properly.

If I can recommend one thing, it's that you cannot play your first real money games with the thought of "if I lose, I'm back to square one again" in your head: it's a recipe for disaster. Just play your best normal game, and as much as possible try to forget about the money.

Does Bodog still have those cheap sitngoes where 5 of 10 spots pay? Those would seem to be the best place to ply this strategy.

Also, if you are on fulltilt, don't play SNGs until you can afford the $2. The $1 carry a 25% rake, and it takes an incredibly good player to consistently beat that.

It can be done.I've done it couple of timeson fulltilt but lost it after mismanagement. Friend gave me $10 On 08-13-07 and I have built to $480 so far. I started mostly with heads up and ground my way up. Play what you arebest at.I didnt start playing cash until I got to $100. Ihave used much stricter bankroll management this time so hopefully I will continue to progress. You can do it too!!

nice post buddies.

I read all of them, will try

I think that Fulltilt is not best place for this challenge. Better is play in Ultimate Bet, there, if you have even $2, you can try start with $0.50+0.05 SNG-s and you have choice between 6 to 50 (or was largest 100) players SNG-s. Sounds a little better if pay $1+0.25 in Fulltilt and loose all your freeroll money. I played there today agayn one large $50 freeroll and have finished in final table, but thanks for one mistake not as 1.

I decided to try and build a BR from 0£ (because im broke :P) and just signed up to full tilt poker. But there are hardly any freerolls to join. They are pretty much all private freerolls and the ones i can join start pretty late at night so i can only play a couple of them.

Are there any freerolls im not seeing?

everyone is talkin about buildin a br starting from zero by playin in freerolls on ft i have not tried ft yet to do that but i did start from zero and built up a br on poker4ever.com and now am upto over 60. in less then a month just playin freerolls they have alot of sng also and other cheap turneys u can get into, just a thought on another site u may try to build up a br on startin from zero.

Proud to be a Army Vet. Always remember to thank a vet for the freedom you have, it is because of them you have that freedom and be sure to thank them for it. Desert Strom 1991. US Army 1981-1993

I made $120 dollars in a bodog freeroll.. i think i posted a thread about it here a few months ago. Since i couldnt withdrawl the money i just blew it in some cash games. Then i won $5 in a pokerstars freeroll and now im building my br from there on. Still need some help in br management as i seem to win a bit the loose it very quickly.

Look under play money tounaments. A free roll starts every 2 to 4 hours. Lots of entrants though. To get in you need to sign up at the top of the hour ie 8:00. The touney starts 40 min later.

How im trying to do it!!!!!

I am also trying to build a br from $0 (from SA and cant deposit money) and have tried a few of the freerolls , but never seem to place (I know keep at it...its a bit of a crap shoot - lol).

What ive started to do is play on our local poker site (wont mention which - hint look at my profile) because the site doesnt have as much traffic as fulltilt and ive already placed a good couple of times - they also pay deep (as far as 20th).


Doing it this way im up to R217 in about 10 days (about $30) playing freerolls (they have 3 regular ones) and SnG R0.5/R1 aswell as a few 6 handed tournaments (R5 buy in + R.50) which pays R21 1st and R9 2nd place. These tournaments are nice because they are fast (10s to act) and by playing tight you can keep a decent stack until down to the last 3 or 4 then start bluffing every 3rd or fourth hand. They hate it.

Now my only problem is getting that money into an overseas account.
This shouldnt be a problem for you guys

PS. Another advantage is that because of our time difference (we are 6 hours ahead of you) our midnight tournament is at only 6 for you guys ie the players are tired

Hi Bob,
I don`t think it`s a good idea trying to build a bankroll from zero.

1. It`s not realistic to win $20 or more in just 2 month, just by playing freerolls (except you are much better than Chris Ferguson or extremly lucky).
Normal freeroll tournys are an all-in championchip. People go all-in with any two cards. The reason is the number of players and the prize structur.
If you are up against 2000 players in a $50 freeroll, it only makes sense if you end up in the first three places. The only chance to get there is to take high risks and build a huge stack or bust out early.

2. You can`t improve your game. It`s impossible to bluff people out of the hand when they have nothing to loose. It is just a card catching contest. Most of the hands go into a showdown, which is unlikely for no limit holdem. You might say they risk their tournament live. Well, there will be another one. Who cares, if there was no buy-in.

2. If you have the time to play freerolls, why not earn the money for a small first deposit? If you do so, you have a much bigger chance to increase your br (Pacific Poker, for example, offers a $500 First Depositer Freeroll with max. 500 Players. Normally 100 - 150 Players sign up). The first 20 Players will get paid. At least you will win $5 if you make it into the money. You are allowed to play 7 Tournaments in one week.

Please, don`t get me wrong. I´m not trying to say that idea is not worth a try. For me it`s just not the right way for the above reasons. What do you think about it?

Hang loose
Wolfgang