holdem stragedy show or no show

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  #1
16th February 2007, 6:52 PM
soleseeker
 
Online Poker at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
holdem stragedy show or no show

the debate continues, on internet tournys, do you show winning pkts to establish bluffability or do you always make them wonder?
Show alot, they fear your raises. If you raise alot or play alot of hands... I recommend showing. keeps down the callers after playing several straight.
If you choose not to show, EVER, you will undoubtably draw more & more callers as you play same table. They peg you as a high risk player, and fear your raises less.
Is there a middle ground?
And if you get moved over & over, you never get to establish a table reputation.
What's your view? I try both.... showing at the start of tourny and on final 2 tables. Any other time you give too much info to your competitors.
Then my number one rule : NEVER, EVER, SHOW A BLUFF!
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  #2
16th February 2007, 8:43 PM
ChuckTs
 
Do a search of the site, and you'll find this has been discussed about a half-dozen times.

In short, I never show because it's better not to reveal any info than to reveal. All you're doing is showing how you play a hand by showing.

Yes, you could use it to your advantage by bluffing, then showing the hand and using that image to your advantage later, and vice versa, but any player with half a brain can see right through that and know when you're advertising or not.

Just plain don't show your cards.
  #3
16th February 2007, 8:47 PM
Irexes
 
Online Poker at: Stars
Game: MTTs & Ring
Information is power in poker. Don't give it away for free.
  #4
16th February 2007, 8:53 PM
Xife
 
Poker at: Stars/Prima
Game: Holdem/Soko?
98% of the time I won't show.. But If I wanna loosen up my table image or vice versa then I will show the odd hand.
  #5
16th February 2007, 9:21 PM
doodydota
 
Game: holdem
re: holdem stragedy show or no show poker

You might consider showing uncalled preflop raises with junk cards in heads up matches in order to tilt your opponent.
Then your big-sized bets on the turn and river might get called more often by fairly weak holdings, because many players will assume that you are an all-out bluffer.
Although this manipulation is obvious to many players you might wonder how well it works if you have already a substantial chip lead.
  #6
16th February 2007, 9:29 PM
Stefanicov
 
Poker at: none
Game: none
I do show if i had a massive hnd but i never show a bluff unless im trying to tilt some 1 or to get a maniacal image which is fun
  #7
16th February 2007, 9:33 PM
DFirstBishop
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: stud h/l&nlh
I never show my pockets. Single table or multi....wanna see what I'm betting on call. Bluffing is an art and a powerful tool of which B&S is the most powerful bluff, but knowing what cards are actually capable of this kind of bluff has to play a strong role. Just how I see things.
  #8
16th February 2007, 11:22 PM
stormswa
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: all of them
I do

It depends what I'm trying to accomplish. I will show alot if I'm getting a too tight image. My goal is to confuse my opponents, my last trip to Atlantic City I probably showed about 10 hands in my 12-15 hour sitting. Giving free information is not always bad, I will show bluffs sometimes in hopes of getting action later.
  #9
20th February 2007, 6:11 AM
tnt72
 
Game: go fish
It really depends on the table...some times I'll show junk early at a table or when i've just been moved to a new table. Basically using this as re verse bluff.
  #10
20th February 2007, 6:57 AM
hott_estelle
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Breathing
re: holdem stragedy show or no show poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xife
98% of the time I won't show.. But If I wanna loosen up my table image or vice versa then I will show the odd hand.
Ditto.

If you're a player like me, who takes notes whenever certain hands are shown down, that let me gauge what type of players I'm up against, showing me cards is like absolutely giving away foolish information.

I don't recommend showing any cards, bluff or no-bluff, doesn't matter. In the long run, showing your cards will just hurt your game against good players who will pick up on certain patterns.
  #11
20th February 2007, 4:30 PM
pokerrqueenn
 
Online Poker at: rigged sites
sometimes in the beginning of a tourney i show a few hands so people will think i don't bluff then i clam up
  #12
20th February 2007, 4:36 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
 
Poker at: Stars
Game: yes
I only show when I'm drunk.
  #13
20th February 2007, 4:37 PM
pokerrqueenn
 
Online Poker at: rigged sites
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus
I only show when I'm drunk.
lol. which is usually when we have our games
  #14
20th February 2007, 4:50 PM
nicoiko
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold'em
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xife
98% of the time I won't show.. But If I wanna loosen up my table image or vice versa then I will show the odd hand.
Same for me.
Depends the way the table is (loose or tight) and the image and message I want to pass to my opponents. ("respect my bets" or opposite "and you fold against that?").

But yeah more at the beggining of a new table as after 30 or 40 hands players already have way too much infos on you to give them a bit more by showing your cards.

So as Dork would say you can do it but with moderation... HIPS
  #15
20th February 2007, 5:05 PM
TheRifle
 
Online Poker at: Bodog, Party
Game: England
re: holdem stragedy show or no show poker

Be deceptive...
  #16
20th February 2007, 5:30 PM
buckster436
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: NL Holdem
I NEVER Show, i dont want to give any info to anyone, it is one reason i seldom post in the stratergies section, the more you tell people the more they can figure you out and the way you play,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,buck
  #17
20th February 2007, 6:32 PM
Sammyv1
 
Online Poker at: STARS, BODOG
Game: LUVWIFE&KIDS
I never ever show when I'm playing with regular peeps.

When I'm playin with the CC community I'll show once in a great while. An example would be AA,KK,QQ folded preflop. I would also show Quads, well, just because I'm the Quadmaster.
  #18
20th February 2007, 7:15 PM
ACardExpert
 
Poker at: FullTilt
Game: holdem n/l

never every show unles i am playing live where i can get a tell on somebody by showing but on the net never every keep them guessing is the game watch the pros online they never show good luck at the tables
  #19
20th February 2007, 8:21 PM
reglardave
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: Horse
I only show Royal Flushes,
 



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