Hey Dorkus

#1 09-10-2006, 1:19 AM

Or any other person that is good with the mathematical side of poker. In a three handed pot, approx how much are your odds lowered when holding a pocket pair?

#2 09-10-2006, 2:32 AM

I don't understand the question. How much are what odds lowered? >.>

#3 09-10-2006, 2:55 AM

what are the odds of getting dealt one?

What are the odds of it being good?

Playing 3 handed compared to 9 handed, the odds of a PP, Ace high, etc get better? Thats why when you get down to less people your supposed to loosen your starting hand requirments.

#4 09-10-2006, 3:35 AM

My bad, I phrased it really wrong, I was having a hard time explaining to someone that your chances of winning with a pocket pair is greatly deminished when two other people are all in preflop. I didn't mean 3 handed, I completely screwed up with my ?, sorry Dorkus. Do you understand what I'm getting at now?

#5 09-10-2006, 6:17 AM

Ok I did a bunch of calculations using one of the texas holdem calculators, and from what I noticed is this:

Any 2 LIVE cards, unsuited, like 93 off, 72 off etc. have about a 10 to 12 percent chance to win against pocket aces. For every random hand that has 2 live cards the chance that the pocket aces will hold up drops by the same amount, ie. 10 to 12%.

2 examples:

AA vs 93 offsuit
AA 87%
93 12%

AA vs 93o vs 72o
AA 75%
93 12%
72 12%

Suits come into play obviously, against suited cards:

AA vs 93 suited
AA 82%
93 17%

AcAs vs 93d vs 72h
AA 67%
93 17%
72 16%

Hope that helps.

#6 09-10-2006, 11:50 AM

Depends if we're talking AA, 88, or 22 here. Depends on the situation too (especially if in a tourney), in other words on what range of hands your opponents are likely to have.

It's pretty impossible to give even an estimate at an answer at the moment.

#7 09-10-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

Depends if we're talking AA, 88, or 22 here. Depends on the situation too (especially if in a tourney), in other words on what range of hands your opponents are likely to have.

It's pretty impossible to give even an estimate at an answer at the moment.

According to my calculations, the accuracy of an answer given with the current information would be at best 22.3% accurate on every third monday of the 2nd month while the moon is waning and the sprites are dancing the third jig of the morrow.

#8 09-10-2006, 12:03 PM

It's 23.6%, you forgot to carry the 1.

#9 09-10-2006, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

It's 23.6%, you forgot to carry the 1.

Im such a noob

#10 09-10-2006, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneMoreBust

According to my calculations, the accuracy of an answer given with the current information would be at best 22.3% accurate on every third monday of the 2nd month while the moon is waning and the sprites are dancing the third jig of the morrow.

lmao

#11 09-10-2006, 5:44 PM

Thanks effexor, that's what I was looking for. I wasn't really wanting some definite answer, just a general to go by when the two opponents hold any two random cards


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