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  Poker - Heads-up Tournament Win %
 
  #1  
10-09-2007, 9:31 PM
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Heads-up Tournament Win %

What is considered a good winning percentage for heads-up 2 player tournaments among the best players? What is considered sustainable? I know these numbers exist for multi-player ring games, and are highly focused on by players looking to make money there. Remember, I'm not asking about BB/100 for heads-up cash games, I'm talking about one on one SNGs (regular, not turbo, although it doesn't necessarily really matter).
Is anyone well experienced in the heads-up tournament field? What experiences have you had with playing it regularly?
 

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  #2  
12-09-2007, 12:50 AM
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I'm not too sure what a good win percentage is for headsup matches, I would assume a "great" headsup player would win about 8 out of 10 matches. I think if you can win 3/4 your doing good, as long as it is consistent.
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12-09-2007, 2:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Qj0n3s
I'm not too sure what a good win percentage is for headsup matches, I would assume a "great" headsup player would win about 8 out of 10 matches. I think if you can win 3/4 your doing good, as long as it is consistent.
Not to sure either. But yeah.. 3/4 would be a good haul as long as you are consistent.
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12-09-2007, 2:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Qj0n3s
I'm not too sure what a good win percentage is for headsup matches, I would assume a "great" headsup player would win about 8 out of 10 matches. I think if you can win 3/4 your doing good, as long as it is consistent.
Although I am lacking in experience i think that winning around 3/4 to 4/5 would be a great percentage.
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12-09-2007, 3:45 AM
OzExorcist
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I don't know from experience what's sustainable (I suspect it swings a fair bit depending on the player), though I'd like to find out myself at some point - heads up is fun

What I do know, however, is a quick bit of math:

Assuming a rake of 10% on top of the buyin, and no money added to the prize pool:

50% win rate = losing one buyin per 10 matches to rake
60% win rate = profit of one buyin (without rake) per 10 matches
75% win rate = profit of four buyins (without rake) per 10 matches

Adjust those figures slightly for the rake on your site (I think on Full Tilt it's actually be 7.5% for HU SnGs?) and compare them to your win / profit figures at other games, then see if you think you can sustain the win rate required to make HU more profitable than your regular game.
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12-09-2007, 6:07 PM
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re: Heads-up Tournament Win %

Wow Cool! It was great to see your posts. Currently Heads Up No Limit matches on Full Tilt are just about the only poker that I play online. I will occasionally do a MTT if I have the time, but that's only about once a week or so (I play live several times a week.)

I can tell you that I have had reasonably good success with these types of SNG and it is a great way to strengthen your game and try different strategies. I started out playing the $5 Heads Up NL Tourneys and after 20 had won 18 of them. I decided to move up to the $10s. I won my first 10 in a row, then I settle in to a win rate of about 8 out of 10. After about a month, I moved up again, this time to $20. My win rate dropped a little, but was still acceptable at about 7 out of 10. I decided a couple of days ago to try $30. I started going about 50/50 so I moved back down to $20. I'll stay there for a while and see how it goes.
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12-09-2007, 8:31 PM
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I'm looking into playing a ton of these in the near future, so I'll let you guys know what types of numbers I'll come up with.
 

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