Gut feelings?

#1 19th November 2008, 1:44 AM

How many of you play on gut feelings, I sometimes throw pot odds, and my odds of catching out the window. Only when I feel I'm going to win the hand, what do you do?

#2 19th November 2008, 1:50 AM

Normally when you've got a 'gut feeling' about a situation it's subconsciously based on maths anyway

#3 19th November 2008, 1:53 AM

I pretty much always play my gut, unfortunately the math sometimes gets in the way and I fold it. That's just me and everyone has different styles and approaches so go with what works

#4 19th November 2008, 5:18 AM

My gut feeling usually turns out to be tilt.

#5 19th November 2008, 5:23 AM

I go with my gut feeling too, I find it feels better when I win like that, most of the time my gut feeling is right but it outcomes change on the turn or river

#6 19th November 2008, 3:53 PM

sometimes i get the feeling that I should limp into a hand, but I won't do it because it's a bad hand (Q 6os for example). I'll get this feeling that not going in was a mistake, and then the flop will come out 66 or Q6 and I'll feel dumb.

This happens like once every 100 hands or so.

#7 19th November 2008, 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChurchSkiz

sometimes i get the feeling that I should limp into a hand, but I won't do it because it's a bad hand (Q 6os for example). I'll get this feeling that not going in was a mistake, and then the flop will come out 66 or Q6 and I'll feel dumb.

This happens like once every 100 hands or so.

And yet your gut feeling is still 100% wrong here. You know the exact probability distribution for the flop, and Q6o does not hit it very hard.

I have a game for you. I'll take a 6-sided die. Pick the number your gut feeling tells you will land face up and we can bet money at 1:1 odds on it. Let's see how well your gut feeling works. Hopefully you don't lose faith until I have a large chunk of change in my pocket .

#8 19th November 2008, 4:27 PM

Online when I get this so called "gut feeling" It usually is gas..

#9 19th November 2008, 4:30 PM

I rely on my "gut" alot - but...

My "gut" feeling is based on what I know about the players in the hand, what I know about how they play, what THEY know about how I play, what I've learned about adding elements of how the hand has played out so that the "story" of the hand makes sense to me, what kind of range I'm able to put the other players on, etc. etc.

So yeah, I listen to my "gut" but my "gut" generally gets its information from my brain.

#10 19th November 2008, 5:00 PM

Live poker gives me a "gut feeling" that usually is always right, and yes it has a lot to do with math, and all that good stuff

#11 19th November 2008, 5:41 PM

I hate my gut feelings because they are usually right except for the few times i play them.

#12 19th November 2008, 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Genso Hikki

I rely on my "gut" alot - but...

My "gut" feeling is based on what I know about the players in the hand, what I know about how they play, what THEY know about how I play, what I've learned about adding elements of how the hand has played out so that the "story" of the hand makes sense to me, what kind of range I'm able to put the other players on, etc. etc.

So yeah, I listen to my "gut" but my "gut" generally gets its information from my brain.

Agree with this. Note that gut feelings on what players have can be correct, because often they're based on subtle things that the conscious mind doesn't even pick up on. But having a gut feeling of what the river card will be is just silly. Basically you're claiming that the cards aren't random and thus the site's rigged. Gut feelings about whether villain is drawing to a flush, flopped a set, etc. can be correct, especially because they usually have a basis in math/psychology (ie what's the reasoning behind his actions?). But yeah, gut feelings on the river being a heart, or the river filling you up, etc. are just silly.

#13 20th November 2008, 10:34 PM

Doyle Brunson once said most gut feelings are an accumulation of information which your subconsious tells you to act on.

#14 23rd November 2008, 2:43 PM

I think having good instincts is the second most important part of being a winning player.

#15 23rd November 2008, 3:49 PM

This is something that comes with experience. The more you will play the better you will be at reading when a player is bluffing or not. Your gut is what will make you a great player and you have to be able to put your ego aside and listen to you gut and you will find most of the time you gut will be right. But again this comes with years of playing and seeing years of flops.

#16 23rd November 2008, 10:00 PM

I play a gut based game, and it has worked out pretty well for me in the past. Way more fun too.

#17 23rd November 2008, 10:03 PM

usually i click the "fold" checkbox when i get dealt 94s on my button and then i'm like no wait, i'll open it if its folded because gut feelin tells me im gon flawp it and then i get 3bet by the BB and feel like a dumb one

#18 25th November 2008, 3:52 PM

I sometimes call on a gut feeling. Also I find myself talking out loud about the outs that I need to improve my hand. Whenever I need a 2 or 7 for a straight it almost always seems to hit when I talk out loud about it.

#19 25th November 2008, 4:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kmixer

I sometimes call on a gut feeling. Also I find myself talking out loud about the outs that I need to improve my hand. Whenever I need a 2 or 7 for a straight it almost always seems to hit when I talk out loud about it.

I hope that when you're talking out loud about your outs you're in a heads-up, all-in situation. If not, you talking out loud about your outs is giving other players in the hand information which may affect whether or not they stay in the hand - very bad poker etiquette.

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