grinding the .01/.02

Since Ive taken a hit to my brm, i'm going back to grinding at the .01/.02 level. What exactly would be a reasonable goal with a 35$ bankroll? I really want to play 4 tables or less, optimally 3 to play my best poker but with these low limits, im not sure if thats enough to turn a profit or not haha

any help from previous grinders would be huge for me

I grind a little .01 .02 I would say yes you can make a good profit at 4 tables, but it's going to take longer to make up for the suckouts that happen to recover your money back on them .. But yes you can easily make a profit..

So example ..>> if you get AA and shove your $2.00 stack in against QQ and they hit trips .Well to recover that $2.00 loss is going to take longer on 4 tables then 16 tables.You might spend the next 2 hrs just getting back the $2.00 you lost to break even for the session.. Just my own opinion.. Good luck.. once you win the money try not to give it up to bad showdown decisions.. Thats my biggest fault in cash games..I call them when they have it and fold when they are bluffing LOL....

I sat down with 2$ and after 40 min, walked away with 3$ haha but i guess a profit is a profit

Good Job ,do that every day and in 10 days youll have another $30.00..Youll double your money..

Hi mate,

I grinded my way up from $2NL and I am just about to move up to $25NL - As the other posters have said and Im sure you are aware, Its not a quick process.

Unfortunately I found it the hardest at $2NL because there are so many Kamikaze players. What I did was play across 4 tables, and once I had made $5 on top of what I had invested across the 4 tables, I would cash it out and open a table of $5NL, and 3 $2NL tables and so on so forth. If you play super tight ABC poker this shouldnt be too much of a problem. I would eventually end up with 4 $5NL tables open and therefore made the grind a little quicker.

Dont get me wrong, there was plenty of times when I would get sucked out on pretty bad and just end up grinding the $2NL - Or I would just play bad ha ha ha.

Hope this helps any.

Cheers,
Marc

I'm playing at those limits at the moment, of course it is kind of a slow process but it isn't really hard to beat. You just need to be thinking fat value, let those fish pay off your big hands, and don't sweat a tough fold in a thin situation.

Don't worry either about the bad beats, now is the time you should be trying to prepare yourself mentally for when you get back to the stakes you used to be playing before. I think ALL IN CLUBS is trying to help but I'm not really sure about his advice, you shouldn't be thinking about the money UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES while you play (With the possible exception of leaving the table when you're up to 3 buyins, but that is up to you). You should just open HEM or PT or whatever, play your A-game and then be happy with the money you won. If you lost, then you can go and see where you were losing money (do this when you win also), were you getting it in good ? value betting correctly ? ...

Loosen up against fish (3-betting for value and isolating) and reconsider playing the hand you have when that nit raises UTG. Always have an eye on who is sitting at your table and don't hesitate in leaving a table when all the fish are gone.

For me multitabling is the easiest way to just forget about that bad play and refocus on the next hand, you should really start getting used to playing 4 tables, once you get used to it you'll be fine. I sincerely doubt I play better at one or two tables than I do at 4 or 5 (I'm up to 6 now which is just fine for me).

Not sure you're looking for strategy tips (you probably already understand what ABC is) but this helped me : Jurn8 micro grind series (http://www.cardschat.com/f53/jurn8s-micro-grinders-video-series-171699/) (watch episode one).

I'm currently grinding them as well trying to do the Ferguson $10,000 challenge. Some of the play I have encountered have taken my breath away and really make me consider stop playing altogether. I feel like I'm making the right plays, but all that comes from it is a NET loss constantly.

Not necessarily. You should be able to achieve a much bigger winrate over 4 tables than 16 tables

Per-table, your win rate is generally higher the less tables you play, but if you can successfully play 16 tables simultaneously, you're going to be making more money per hour than playing 4, which is what clubs was saying.

A major factor in how many tables you can handle is the style of play you bring to them. ABC poker makes it easier to keep up with more.

As for building your roll. it'll take time because while it's not very hard to achieve a decent win rate in terms of BB per 100 hands, it's not much money. For example, playing 50 hands per hour on one .01/.02 table and winning 10BB/100 is 10 or 20 cents per hour depending whether BB is big blinds or big bets

honestly, i find it just impossible haha...get it in with a set of 5's against ak and then running clubs so he sucks out with the flush....its just incredible lol

the rolls at 22.78 now, so im down like 12 dollars...its seriously just unbelieveable

well i took the idea of multitabling, and im at 40 $ in the bankroll lol so woo positive note

Great job on increasing your BR, just make sure you keep playing tight and smart. Always remember to follow BRM, and GL.

lol its hard grinding at such low stakes considering the most some1 is going to buy in with is a few dollars but if u wanna keep ur BR steady and slowly increase its not a bad idea

I just sit down with 2$ in the shallow .05/.10 game and hope to double up. Its working so far today and ive pushed my bankroll back up 20$. Also, im looking to get iron man this month haha so at .05/.10 its a little easier to do

ended the night with 71.86 haha so i doubled up in one day...and i know thats bc im prob on a heater lol its all the same to me i suppose

35$?! that's a huge bankroll man. I would be at the .10/.25 no problem there. but most people would play SNG's and grind out a few wins until they double or triple up I suppose. I don't even mess with .01/.02. That's for people who are clearing bonuses, just want to see cards or waste some time, like retirees and people new to poker or on their weekend.

SS'ing is the worst way to increase a bankroll

You could do with learning about BRM

You must be joking? Playing $25NL with $35 is crazy!! Ignore this advice.

haha yea i know, bad brm is what got me in this problem in the first place lol. I'm up to about 75 now so im trying out the .02/.05 rush on tilt and its pretty easy. got about 20 buy ins there so I'm covered haha

down to 56, so not so hot, but still playing the mini ftops 1 tonight so wish me luck haha

i took 10$ to 40$ in a month playin at those stakes and i wouldnt consider myself that good of a player... only thing i can say about those limits is DO NOT BLUFF!

haha yea ive realized that the hard way

well i lost it all so i guess im done playing haha

All at 2nl?

That would be some achievement on its own

haha no no ive been playing .02/.05 and i've got about 47$ still in the account...i dont know why or remember posting that? lol

Yeah playing under the influence maybe isn't a good idea either lol

lol probably not

Haha. Goodluck to all what you are going to play.
It's also hard to me to stick in brm.

rolls at 81$ today, mainly due to the 21$ rakeback check lol

Anyone got some advice for a player who just built a bankroll from zero to $130?

Im ok at tourneys, and do ok at live games, in the past have wasted my BR, then worked to build from nothing, but this time $130 should be enough to start with, what im wondering is should i buy some software with some of the money, I really wish to play tournaments, my strategy is far stronger than cash table.

seriously im going to be firm and hard here! Dont be offended. Why on earth would anyone play 1 cent 2 cent if it isnt just for fun? if you are a good player and playing to make a few dollars like your saying then just move up a few levels. Dont need to play high stakes just go up to the stakes where the money actually matters to you. Youl find when your playing for and risking money that matters you will sub concsiously play better. You may think your playing great at 1 cent 2 cent but the fact your playing for meaningless money suggests your subconsciousness isnt going to be completely focused. Youl make decisions oh its only 4 cent to call, but when thats 50 cent to call its a diff mindset. you have ace king suited somones raised 5 big blinds, another has reraised to 10 big blinds. this stuation youl think ah its only 40 cent whats 40 cent. and make the bad call. But when its 5 dollars youl be making the correct fold. subconcious effects your play. Have to play at some level where the risk is making you play better. Im a winning poker player at the levels i play, but i guarantee ive lost a lot of buy ins when ive played micro because my mindset. SURELY YOU HAVE MORE THAN 50 DOLLARS? DONT YOU WORK? IF NOT THEN SAVE UP MONEY UNTIL ITS WORTH PLAYING. plAYING FOR 2 DOLLARS IS JUST LUDICROUS. If your a good player then you are wasting your talents. Stop playing micros its not for winning its for fun. Get a job Get spare cash then deposit a bankroll worth making money off. Id recommend a 1k bankroll then play as small as you wnat but make it worth playing for.

well i dont exactly have 1k just laying around, but if youd like to give me it id be happy to play with. Im kind of a broke college kid and I have other things to be paying for, ie school and yes i have a job, i'd rather get a degree than be able to play higher level poker. Maybe youve never heard of bankroll management? If i had 1k sitting around, then yea id probably deposit it, but i'm trying to work my way up on blood sweat and tears. (believe me, theres plenty of all 3 at the .01.02 level)