got underpair and facing flop bet

hey yall. i am still confused of how i should of played this. my opponent was a loose aggressive opponent.

Full Tilt Poker Game #19045391977: Table Twining - $0.02/$0.05 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:17:17 ET - 2010/03/07
Seat 1: sanpnat0r ($6.73)
Seat 2: PythonWannabe ($5.36)
Seat 3: cmon fisheeeee ($5.07)
Seat 4: SicSic1 ($5.05)
Seat 5: xxlouganxx ($2)
Seat 6: hihopes1 ($5.11), is sitting out
Seat 7: babarabanna ($1.68)
Seat 8: Krecul ($4.13)
Seat 9: papasragu ($3.82)
SicSic1 posts the small blind of $0.02
xxlouganxx posts the big blind of $0.05
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cmon fisheeeee [2d 2h]
babarabanna folds
Krecul folds
papasragu folds
sanpnat0r raises to $0.17
PythonWannabe folds
cmon fisheeeee calls $0.17
SicSic1 folds
xxlouganxx folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 3d 5h]
sanpnat0r bets $0.41
cmon fisheeeee has 15 seconds left to act
cmon fisheeeee calls $0.41
*** TURN *** [3h 3d 5h] K♣
sanpnat0r has 15 seconds left to act
sanpnat0r bets $0.70
cmon fisheeeee folds
Uncalled bet of $0.70 returned to sanpnat0r
sanpnat0r mucks
sanpnat0r wins the pot ($1.15)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.23 |
Board: [3h 3d 5h Kc]

I don't think there is anything wrong with your play. If he has any type of pair you are already beat. Pocket 2's only real value is if you hit your set. I never go to showdown without the set unless I have a sick read on my opponent. Thats just me though...others may have a different opinion.

I don't mind the line you took, but it's dependent on a lot of other factors. I don't mind a fold on the flop either because I've never seen a LAG at 5nl who's not an agro fish who's just waiting to pay you off,

Is his pre-flop bet size standard for him? Or does it indicate strength (i.e. you should be set mining)?
If you were OOP, generally just give up with an underpair, in position I don't mind call downs of as many streets as you think he'll bluff.
When he bets the pot it's a bigger bet size than you really want to call, but you have a pocket pair and position so I don't mind it. Same as pre-flop though, is this sizing normal for him or should it be setting off alarm bells? Also does he cbet a lot, or does he give up when he misses completely (at 5nl, assuming people are cbetting air and hands that hit is a big mistake).
Turn, okay, he bet really big pre-flop at 5.5bb, he then bet full pot on the flop and he has now bet 2/3 pot on the turn, this stands out enough that it usually means "I give up" or "I was bluffing and now I just made my hand, please don't fold!" unfortunately it sometimes does just mean "I'm a spazzy fish and I'm mashing buttons", the pot size is going to get out of control if we call so I don't want to look him up, but I'm definately keeping an eye on him if he takes this line against someone else to figure out what it means.

Whatever he has, if you call the turn you can only do so with the plan of calling on the river, and bluff catching for stacks is almost always -EV.

Well, if you were getting tired of this guy and wanted to slow him down....3 bet pre, since you have position consider your 22 to be ahead at this time vs this type of opponent. That was the perfect flop to 3x raise when villain then donk bets into you on the flop.(Which these maniacs do most of the time) You win the hand on the flop doing this about 75% of the time.

Yes but if i did 3 bet then i would have a decent amount of my stack into the middle with a weak hand and he had a fairly wide range of hands that could have me beat on that flop. (any pocket pair was beating me). i was planning on calling and then betting if he checked the turn

i wasn't getting tired of him raising, i was just noticing him raising it up quite often. i did 3 bet him a few hands ago with ak which he folded. i was looking to flop a set and fold if i missed but that flop seemed hard for my opponents to hit.

Light 3betting is risky against a 5nl LAG. Can't rely on much fold equity, unless if you've got a solid read. I like the pre-flop call, especially when we can probably expect him to be spewy post-flop when we flop a set.

Flop 3bet seems like a raise to see where you're at when it's more cost effective to float. Raising for information is generally bad, either he's bluffing and gives up or has a hand and we're giving him more value. Floating and calling the turn if we're getting good odds against the frequency we expect him to fire a 2nd barrel here with air, or floating the flop and folding the turn if we expect him to bluff once and give up, is going to be more +EV.

Fold the flop. He's very unlikely to be bluffing when he bets full pot.

As played, I think you should sometimes call the turn with the plan to shove any river if he checks. The King is a good card for him to barrel so we expect a bet like 100% of the time but his bet sizing drops to just over half pot. Could be that he didn't like seeing that King, so if he checks the river I think we can take the pot away a decent enough percentage of the time to make it profitable (and I don't think your hand is good here enough to check behind on the river).

Again I think the best play by far is to just fold to his flop bet.

I wouldn't fold to a C bet from a loose agg player. Frankly, I would raise his flop bet, but thats just me and my style

Good advice here, that flop seemed very hard for my opponent to have hit. The only hand i see him having which was beating me was a medium pocket pair. i thought he bet pot because it wanted to bet bigger to try to take me off the pot. i didn't want to 3bet because if he did have a medium pair then he probably would of pushed all in plus also might call with ak, aq. In hence sight i think he had a hand like 77 88 and the turn was a scare card. good advice wvhillbilly. i think i should have folded and just wait til i get the monster hand then let him bluff his money off.

Serious?

Hmmm, i'm very likely to call the flop bet in this situation. I'm also calling the turn for the reasons WV said. I dunno if he's a decent player but, in his spot that's a turn to double barrel every single time without fail.

The river is a lot of depends.

really? I don't like a flat call here, you don't know where you are in the hand, unless of course you really think he has something like A high, and thats only a decent call HU (not sure if it was HU or not, idr). Personally, i'd end the hand right there.