Flush on a paired board

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  #1
4th August 2009, 11:40 AM
Bobjim37
 
Flush on a paired board

Just wondering how afraid people are of meeting a full house when hitting the nuts flush when the board is paired, do you go bust or are you careful.

Had one example in a home game that got me thinking about it. I saw a free flop from BB with 10 7, and the flop came 7-7-Q with 2 spades, blank turn and the river was 10 of spades giving me full house and filling the board for any flushdraw.

In this game nobody actually had the flush, I met a low 7 and took down what was a decent pot after all but it got me thinking that if I would have the Ace High flush and met the full house I would probably have ended all in eventually and busted.

So again, general question, you have the Nuts flush and there is a middle pair on the board. How careful are you?
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  #2
4th August 2009, 12:39 PM
josh_dei8
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
I will keep pushing on my nut flush with c bets. If I get called it may slow me down on river, if I get reraised I hope I have a good read on my opponent or some notes on him so I can determine his range of hands. i will also have to look at his position and replay the whole hand through my head and figure out if he has hit his full boat or is he just making the steal.
  #3
4th August 2009, 1:46 PM
Bobjim37
 
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Originally Posted by josh_dei8
I will keep pushing on my nut flush with c bets. If I get called it may slow me down on river, if I get reraised I hope I have a good read on my opponent or some notes on him so I can determine his range of hands. i will also have to look at his position and replay the whole hand through my head and figure out if he has hit his full boat or is he just making the steal.

So what you basically is saying is that this is a tough one that requires a good read on your opponent and a good memory of how the betting has gone, and if your opponent got a free flop from the BB in addition its basically impossible to judge if he has the boat or not?..
  #4
4th August 2009, 2:00 PM
ckingriches
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
It's certainly tough to lay down the nut flush, but a paired board should always be a warning that you might want to be somewhat careful. Since the specifics of the hand could be so varied, depending on how the hand unfolds, who you're up against and how many chips you each have, not too mention the nature of the game you're playing, it's tough to give standard advice. However, if I'm playing a tourney and an all-in would put me at risk of being out, I would be more likely to call a bet or raise than to re-raise or push all-in and risk it all.
  #5
4th August 2009, 2:11 PM
8Michael3
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
re: Flush on a paired board poker

First of All, if I have the nut flush you wouldnt be in there with T7. I dont let the BB see free flops if I have an ace for this very reason. Why let an average hand bust you when you hold an above average hand?

Its a different story if someone has a pair and then makes a boat. In this case, I think Josh is right about knowing your players. In a MTT I'm screwed because I want to make the most out of my big hands. If I'm playing within my bankroll I will be allin and lose with my nut flush. If I'm playing above my bankroll (big no,no, but I do it sometimes lol) I would be careful like cking says.

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  #6
4th August 2009, 2:55 PM
plainluck
 
Poker at: ultimatebet
Game: holdem
This just happened to me yesterday. I had an ace high flush and the other guy had a full house. My problem is my mind won't wrap around the fact that this could happen so, of course, I ended up all in and lost. I think my "red flag" isn't working.
 



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