flush draws

i have heard that when you are holding suited cards and the flop has two of that suit it is wise to push all in or very large bet to get people to fold or you could actually hit the flush . i always thought it was a donk move just hoping to get lucky is this a good strategy and are the odds of hittting the flush that high that it makes this move smart? should it be done all the time or just in late position or if everyone seems to be checking? also what about if the turn is not the suit you need do you keep pushing ?
thanks

This strategy will make you go broke in a hurry!!! Are you talking about any two suited cards? Best to be done in late position when you can control the size of the pot. Over suited connectors are best, you have a lot more outs. You can hit an over pair, a straight or your flush. Long story short, not a great strategy. Position and player reads are key. Also are you talking about tournaments or ring games??? There are some situations where you would want to push on a flush draw, in the late stages of a tournament for example, even still I would prefer to push with top pair and a flush draw if I had about ten BB left in a tournament.

There is so much more information that would be needed to tell you either yes or no. For instance, is it a cash game or tournament? Stack sizes, reads on villain, your table image, amount of people in the hand, position, etc. There is rarely a straight yes or no, right or wrong answer in poker. To help you with your FD strategies, we'd need a good bit more info.

I don't think going all in every time you flop a 4 flush is the way to play. I think the odds of hitting a flush when flopping 4 of your suit are around 35%. So basically you will be winning 1/3 of these hands. You will also be winning the hands where you get top or mid pair to fold the flop, but those pots won't be large. But what if you are up against a higher flush draw?

This play only seems profitable when you have two overs and a flush draw, although even then you can still lose. Here's a good example.

YouTube - High Stakes Poker 2007 - ONE MILLION POT

this is called a semi-bluff or a bluff with outs. yes it's a great move. no you shouldn'd do it every time. there are times you should and times you shouldn't. somethings to consider are the sizes of the stacks in the pot with you. do you got enough behind to threaten an all in later? are they committed already? do they fold to pot sized beats? do they call alot w/bottom or middle pair? the odds of hitting a flush by the river is about 2 to 1. meaning you get there 1 in 3 times. if by making this bet you believe you can get them to fold a better hand(eg bottom or middle pair) enough times this is a good move.

Pushing allin like that is a potential killer, and i mean for you. If you are
called then you are being beat at the moment, and if everyone folds to
you, you just lost a larg opportunity to win a lot of money if the flush
had come. You aren't looking to win the blinds, you are looking to win
as much as you possibly can, but some times it is very productive to raise
with a flush possibility. The reason for this is because your opponents
don't expect you to be raising with a flush. If the flush comes, they are
clueless! The probably wont have a clue you hit it, and you can play it
any way you want, just to sucker them in. But to go allin is probably
a very bad move.

Scenario

You're on the button hold Ah 9h and the flop comes 3h Qc 5h

Checked All Around - Think you can take it right here?

You bet your draw 1/2 the pot

3 Callers -

Plr 1 - Reraised
Plr 2 - Call
Plr 3 - Call

You only have an 11% chance of hitting your nut flush.

Is it worth it?

Your outs:
2h 4h 6h 7h 8h 10h Jh Qh Kh 9/45 cards factoring in opponents whole cards/burn

Burn and Turn: 4c 43cards left

And you... you missed the nut flush

Pl3: Check/Call
Pl1: Raise/Call
Pl2: Reraise
You're still on a draw...

You think, or at least make yourself believe:
1. Maybe PL1 Has Queen Rags or Kh Jh
2. Maybe PL3 is drawing dead and trying to steal
3. PL2 is definitely on a draw he has not pushed, only called even to this point
4. You have the nut flush draw

Burn and River: Qh

You hit your nut flush. -ALL IN
Pl1 ALL IN
Pl2 ALL IN
Pl3 ALL IN

Here's what your opponents were holding:

Players Whole Cards:
Player 1: Ac Qd (Three Queens)
Player 2: Ad 2h (Straight A - 5)
Player 3: 5d 5c (Full house 5 5 5 Q Q)

So worth it or not? Alot can go wrong even with 3 hearts showing up on the flop.

Player 3 Set a trap from the flop.
Player 1 had top pair top kicker on the flop - was the aggressor
Player 2 fish hit his straight on the turn

All three of these players had you beat prior to the river.

Going all in with a flush draw after the flop is a losing bet in the long run. The odds of you hitting the flush are 36% based on 9 outs. They will be a little better than that if you have other outs. 36% is approximately 2.75 to 1. Therefore over a long period you will win 1 in every 2.75 of these hands. Going all in with a flush draw is usually a short stack tactic where there is a chance they will win and also a chance that the others will fold.

for instance were you raised preflop,and more specific did you raise preflop?
if i was rasised prflop i check call depending on the amount,but if i land the flush draw or the oesd i,m going to bet into that pot...

Not to mention the possibility of some of those 9 outs being folded pre-flop

Well you definatly don't want to say oh i got 4 to flush "all in" everyhand lol. So lets say you have the nut flush draw-A-Xs- and you hit 4 to a flush on the flop you now have 9 outs if you believe you are behind in the hand. Say the pot is 20 bucks and we are playing 200nl. thats 1-2 blinds. simple math 9x4=36% chance of hitting your flush. Round that up to 40% and bet that into the pot (8 dollars) it may look weak or it may look like your trying to keep him in the hand so its a good bet to keep control of the action and see the turn and possably the river for cheaper than say going all in or blowing 1/2 or even 3/4ths your stack on just a draw. If you hold A-Ks and flop 4 to a flush and you think either an ace or king will also give you the winning hand then you can add another 6 outs 6x4=24%+ the 36% (4 to a flush) =60% so you see you can bet 60% of the pot in a situation like that. These would be +ev plays. This is just basic and as you move up limits or against certain players you may need to adjust.

Great way to put it, and i have even done that...
I know odds on a flush are low, and fold alot of same suit cards, and only play the high ones.

Thanks Kid... I was hoping maybe someone read that lol I spent awhile creating the scenario in my head lol.