Flush draw OOP limped postflop

#1 17th January 2010, 9:19 AM

The situation is you are in the big blind in a 4 way hand. You flop a flush draw with a marginal 2 gapper or hi low kind of hand. In general how would you play this?

Do you lead out with the thinking that you have about a 40% chance of completing by the river and fold equity to win right now. Your hand should also be well disguised if you do hit or do you check and call given correct odds?

#2 17th January 2010, 9:41 AM

You should take stabs at limped pots, since nobody has shown any strength. Obv oop this is a bit tricky.

Two considerations before deciding whether to take a stab here - what's the flop texture (the more coordinated, the more likely you'll get called) and how do the other three guys play (the more passive, the more likely the stab is to succeed - also, how likely will a second barrel be to succeed against anyone who calls the flop, and what are they likely to be calling this flop with)?

#3 17th January 2010, 9:46 AM

Really deep (200bb+) I'll bet this almost every time figuring that the only hands that call me to the river are hands I can get paid against if I hit and we're deep enough that the bets on all streets can be large (maximise fold equity + set up a big river value bet).

100bb though I'll check most of the time, someone hit something, possibly even a bigger draw than mine. In position it'd be a standard bet if checked to but OOP there are too many people to count on much fold equity, I'll check-fold this a lot but will check-raise and bet the turn against a tight opponent.

#4 17th January 2010, 9:38 PM

Good point poker kid but that means all the villains must be deep as well since you dont know who will or will not be calling.

I think these situations happen so infrequently that most of us would come out EV whether we choose to stab or call/fold. High variance players may choose the former option and low variance players may choose the latter.

#5 17th January 2010, 10:06 PM

Definitely put a bet out there, see if you can pick it up without drawing towards your flush. If there's even one caller, I'll generally bet any card, except the one that gives me the flush (obviously, depending on what types of players my opponents are, that can change). Many times weaker opponents will fold after attempting to see a card on the turn (or so I've seen), and bet when you've checked to them. River, if I don't hit and they've called, I just shut down

#6 19th January 2010, 9:31 AM

Only agressive!!! Bet 3\4-1 pot and fold on rereise )))) and all-in on turn in any case!!! opponent must be afraid))))

#7 20th January 2010, 4:03 AM

Beaver I like that first part bet and fold to reraise. Actually depending on raisers stack size and pot odds, I might shove depending on who folded and whos still in.

That second part not so much lol

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