Fixed Limit Badugi

#1 22nd January 2010, 4:57 PM

Say I have A2XX offsuit and defend my big blind in a multiway pot.
I catch an offsuit 4 and have a good 4 card badugi draw: A24X.

Someone who was not the original raiser led out a bet after drawing 1 on first draw. And the original raiser, who stood pat, calls.
Now, I believe someone has a 10 or better badugi at worst by now.
But with such a strong draw I call. I miss and guy who led out after 1st draw bets again after 2nd draw. Original raiser calls.

I call???

I had 7:1 odds with my draw, and figured a 3,5,6,7,8, or maybe 9/10, were likely to give me the winning hand.

#2 22nd January 2010, 6:11 PM

You need the Troutulator.

#3 22nd January 2010, 6:33 PM

Okay, thanks. What a complicated program. lol.

#4 22nd January 2010, 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiceNisus

Okay, thanks. What a complicated program. lol.

Yeah, its kinda tricky to get the hang of. But its the poker stove of games that aren't NLHE. Once you get used to sticking in ranges, it gets pretty awesome.

#5 22nd January 2010, 6:43 PM

7:1 odds is almost enough to call with 1 draw left if you think a T low will win. However, players don't usually draw 1, then bet into pat opponents with anything less than an 8 low. Considering that he also bet out after the second draw that makes it even more likely that he has a strong hand. I'd say you need at least an 8 low here to win (and 10:1 odds) and probably a 7 (12.5:1 odds).

#6 22nd January 2010, 6:50 PM

Okay, your reasoning for 10:1 odds or better makes sense to me.
Would I call with 7:1 odds and the implied odds with the likelihood of getting in extra bets after the 3rd draw the times I hit?
It's cutting it close I suppose?

#7 22nd January 2010, 7:05 PM

Is there a troutulator tutorial anywhere?
This program looks like it could be very helpful if I could ever figure out how to use it.

#8 22nd January 2010, 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NiceNisus

Okay, your reasoning for 10:1 odds or better makes sense to me.
Would I call with 7:1 odds and the implied odds with the likelihood of getting in extra bets after the 3rd draw the times I hit?
It's cutting it close I suppose?

You might get one extra bet from the postdraw bettor but the predraw pat player probably has a marginal badugi and would fold. There's also the chance that you'd hit your hand and still be beat -- so I'd say it's a fold despite your good draw.

There's a readme file with Troutulator that has some info about how to use it. I just downloaded it too, though, and haven't taken the time to figure it out yet.

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