Poker Forum - Register
Play Online Poker Games at US Poker Sites - Get the maximum Full Tilt Poker Referral Code and PokerStars Marketing Code exclusively at Cardschat. Try online poker at Everest Poker, Ultimate Bet.
Party Poker Titan Poker PokerStars Bodog Pacific Poker
Go Back   Poker Forum > Poker Message Boards > Poker Strategies
Search

Online Poker Forum
Receive the maximum sign up bonus when using our exclusive Full Tilt Poker Referral Code CARDSCHAT.
: In this situation, what hand would you call with?
AA 13 92.86%
KK 11 78.57%
QQ 5 35.71%
JJ 5 35.71%
TT 1 7.14%
99 down to 66 0 0%
55 down to 22 0 0%
AK,AQ suited 4 28.57%
AK, AQ unsuited 1 7.14%
Any 2 cards, I'm a fish, there's another mtt in a minute 0 0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
  Poker - First hand of a $3 MTT
 
  #1  
24-10-2006, 4:56 AM
KerouacsDog
takes poker seriously....
 
Location: torquay
Plays at: PokerStars/FT/Virgin
Likes: Americana PL
Posts: 4,104
First hand of a $3 MTT

Ok, playing a $3 MTT last night, 267 players, starting chips 2000, blinds at 25/50. MTT pays to top 27.
I'm a TAG player, and just lately have made the money in my last 7 out of 10 small-stake mtts(had some incredible luck along the way).
First hand.
2 limpers before me.
I'm dealt JJ in mid-position.
I raise to 250 chips, my generalised standard play for JJ(between 3xbb to 5xbb).
It folds to BB.
He reraises to 2000, putting us both all-in.
I agonise until the timer nearly runs out, then I fold.
My reasoning? If he's reraising, even if he's a fish, he could still have Ax, Kx,Qx, and take me out. He could also be playing any 2 cards.He could also have AK,AQ,AT, etc, and still hit. QQ,KK,AA dominate me.
Would you have called? It's normally a 2-3 hour tourney before you get to the cash, i'm always in it for the long run.
What would you have called with?
AA,KK,QQ, etc?
Please tick all that you would call with.
 

PokerStarsPokerStars is amongst the best poker sites online that accepts US players. Use PokerStars marketing code CARDSCHAT for an exclusive $75 bonus.

Full Tilt PokerFull Tilt Poker accepts US players. Use Full Tilt Poker referral code CARDSCHAT for a $600 bonus and to play poker games that the pro's play.

  #2  
24-10-2006, 5:00 AM
KerouacsDog
takes poker seriously....
 
Location: torquay
Plays at: PokerStars/FT/Virgin
Likes: Americana PL
Posts: 4,104
first vote to me.
AA and KK.
QQ is a trouble hand sometimes, so not that one.
  #3  
24-10-2006, 6:02 AM
Xife
CardsChat Regular
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
Plays at: Stars/Prima
Likes: Holdem/Soko?
Posts: 454
Queens I would call... But I think I would call with jacks as well (Since im assuming you're playing at Costadel poker )
  #4  
24-10-2006, 6:08 AM
JimboJim
Banned
 
Location: West Virginia
Plays at: PokerStars
Likes: hold-em
Posts: 2,167
I would call a hand that I know is dominating them. You have no idea what kind of player they are so you have no idea what they have. Chances are that they dont have much and your JJ would have probably been a good hand. It is a $3 buy-in so it reduces the chance that its a lotto player. If I could guess I'm guessing that he had either QJs or PP 10's
  #5  
24-10-2006, 6:22 AM
KerouacsDog
takes poker seriously....
 
Location: torquay
Plays at: PokerStars/FT/Virgin
Likes: Americana PL
Posts: 4,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xife View Post
Queens I would call... But I think I would call with jacks as well (Since im assuming you're playing at Costadel poker )
nah, victor chandler, the main site in england. some excellent players there, thats my only read if you can call it a read!
  #6  
24-10-2006, 8:47 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
2008 CCCOP winnar
 
Location: Birmingham, UK
Plays at: Stars
Likes: You
Posts: 7,660
What's the tourney structure like? Looks pretty bad from the fact that level 1 is 25/50 with 2k to start.

I think if the structure is really conductive to a crapshoot from the mid-stages onwards you can find a case for calling here and trying to build a stack early considering that many donks ranges are surprisingly large here.

Otherwise I fold. AA-QQ would be my calliung range.
  #7  
24-10-2006, 9:00 AM
KerouacsDog
takes poker seriously....
 
Location: torquay
Plays at: PokerStars/FT/Virgin
Likes: Americana PL
Posts: 4,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus View Post
What's the tourney structure like? Looks pretty bad from the fact that level 1 is 25/50 with 2k to start.

I think if the structure is really conductive to a crapshoot from the mid-stages onwards you can find a case for calling here and trying to build a stack early considering that many donks ranges are surprisingly large here.

Otherwise I fold. AA-QQ would be my calliung range.
thats pretty standard on vc. 8 minute blinds.next level is 30/60, then 50/100, etc.
Am i getting a bad deal with vc, with regards to mtts? Thats the only site where I play a major amount of them.Im so used to the blind structure, that I've never really thought about it.
KD
  #8  
24-10-2006, 9:30 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
2008 CCCOP winnar
 
Location: Birmingham, UK
Plays at: Stars
Likes: You
Posts: 7,660
8 minute blinds with 40bb starting stacks? Eww, that is horrible.

Compare it with Stars, FT or Ultimatebet's structures.
  #9  
24-10-2006, 10:03 AM
KerouacsDog
takes poker seriously....
 
Location: torquay
Plays at: PokerStars/FT/Virgin
Likes: Americana PL
Posts: 4,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus View Post
8 minute blinds with 40bb starting stacks? Eww, that is horrible.

Compare it with Stars, FT or Ultimatebet's structures.
never played at those sites in my life
  #10  
24-10-2006, 12:52 PM
Irexes
Im in ur tornamentz -
 
Location: Essex, UK
Plays at: Stars
Likes: MTTs & Ring
Posts: 3,995
AA, KK, QQ, JJ and AK (not AQ).

At this level of buyin and that harsh strucure he could have anything remotely co-ordinated.

If his range is AA-22, AK-AQ then it's at least a coinflip, but I strongly suspect it's a lot broader and includes KQ and and bunch of Ax.

I'm no crazy man and I like to avoid coinflips (particularly calling) if I can but this situation is probably too good to pass up. I'm unlikely even if highly skilled to double up my initial stack much more than half of the time.

Will I take 55/45 to double up on the first hand of an MTT? Probably.

Will I take 60/40 (which I reckon this is at least) with this structure? Absolutely.

Would call at $33 buy-in (my usual leve). Probably.

If I double up I can really give my self an excellent change of building a decent stack and avoid taking a series of chances to do so which are probably greater than the chance I'm taking here (if that makes sense). Doubling up very early in MTTs dramatically changes the EV of decisions as it gives you a huuuge edge. If you double up and are still around the average then there's a lot less of an advantage to be had.

If he's got QQ-AA or he hits and I'm out then it's no loss and I can start another (if it's a financial decision I'm at the wrong buy-in). First hand or 200th hand it's all the same result if it's out of the money.

Tough to treat with detachment if you call and lose though
Reply
  Poker Forum > Poker Message Boards > Poker Strategies


Display Modes
Similar Threads for: First hand of a $3 MTT
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MTT satellite strategy bolcs5 Poker Strategies 11 19-08-2006 9:35 PM
Please explain MTT types Effexor Poker Rooms 4 12-08-2006 3:24 AM
Cash games v MTT Ronaldadio Poker Strategies 7 03-08-2006 5:22 AM
Strategy for a big money MTT rebuy KerouacsDog Poker Strategies 9 20-07-2006 11:21 PM
Is this a good MTT strategy if u wanna win ??? Ronaldadio Poker Strategies 10 13-07-2006 7:02 PM


Full Tilt Poker
PLAY WITH THE PROS, $600 BONUS, US FRIENDLY POKER SITE!

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 1:44 PM.


Sitemap: 1 2 3

Copyscape   Poker En Ligne Online Poker Poker Online
All original site contents ©Cardschat.com 2004-2008. Reproduction is prohibited.