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  Poker - Even Jesus goes on tilt
 
  #1  
10-05-2005, 2:17 AM
Jesus Lederer
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Location: Viņa del Mar, Chile
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Even Jesus goes on tilt

First of all, excuse me for my english, iīm from Chile and i donīt speak english very well (and babelfish translates word by word, so it doesnīt works for a long text).
Like 3 months ago i was playing a little tourney with friends (we were like 8, and the buy in was like $5). Iīm recognized as a very tight player by my friends, but there was one who had never played with me before. It was the first hand of the table (we played with $2000 in chips and the blinds started $10/20), and i really donīt like to play many hands at the beggining of any tourney, but i was dealt KK and had to play them. I was on middle position and raised like $80. A tight friend (his name is Cristobal) and the one who was playing for first time with us (his name is Tamil, and he was on the button) called . The flop came J 3 X, two hearts. I checked, Cristobal checked and Tamil bet $100. Me and Cristobal called. The turn came blank. I checked (i knew that Tamil would bet again), Cristobal checked and Tamil bet again $100. I raised $250 and both Cristobal and Tamil called. At that time i knew that Cristobal had something like AJ and i guessed that Tamil had something like middle pocket pair, or bottom pair or something like that. The river was a blank, and i bet like $350. Both Cristobal and Tamil called. Cristobal showed AJ. I was happy, i thought that i had won the pot, but then Tamil showed J 3 suited (not hearts). I knew i still had chips but from that moment i played the worst poker ever on my life. I went on tilt and finished like 7th.
The point is that this kind of things doesnīt have to affect your mind, or you would end like me, playing pots without thinking and losing them. The best thing you can do is to forget that hand and start thinking on the next one. If you start thinking: Why I dindīt raise enough? Why I dindīt fold? and stuff like that, you wonīt be able to play focus with all your skills on the next hands. That questions you have to answer after the tourney ends, not in the middle of it. You can committe a lot of mistakes (even more if you are a newbie like me), but the key is to learn and take them as experience, because it will help you on similar situations on the future. You can do that afterwards, so in the moment it happens you have to do something like breath deeply, drink water, think in anything else, talk with friends or anything that helps you to relax and forget that hand.
What about really bad beats? On another of those friendly tourneys, i was heads up and we were playing like for 8 hours. I was chip leader and my friend at that time was frequently going all in preflop, and i didnīt have hands to call him. I told him: "With AA Iīm gonna catch you". And it happened. I was dealt pocket rockets. I was on the button, and raised like twice the big blind. My friend said the words i was wishing to hear: "Iīm all in". I called inmediatly, and i was glad to see K7 offsuited. The flop came K X X. I was trembling, fearing that 5 outs that could beat me. The turn came K. I almost started crying. I was playing the %&$# tourney for 8 hours to lose with AA against K7. I remembered what happened on the other tourney when i went on tilt, so i just layed there in my seat, trying to blank my head and forget any thought i could have. It took me like 2 minutes to forget that hand and i was prepared to played the best poker i could, as if nothing had happened. The end of story was that i made a came back with $900 chips against like $15100 and finally i won the tourney.
The point is that yes, itīs always frustrating to lose a big pot or have a bad beat, but if you go easily on tilt, you will lose more pots. Is true that the only thing you need to win is a chip and a chair, you just have to trust in your skills and focus on the hand youīre playing at the moment.
Well, thatīs all. I have to say that iīm not trying to teach anything to anyone, because iīm a newbie at this game. Iīm just telling an experience and saying what i think you should do when you could go on tilt, because all poker players are able to have a bad beat.

*This thread is specially for tourneys, when you cannot just stand up after a bad beat and leave the game. In cash games, maybe it could be a good idea to stand up, relax, and return when you think your head is cold and you can play at your normal level.

Last edited by Jesus Lederer : 10-05-2005 at 2:42 AM.
 

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  #2  
10-05-2005, 11:33 PM
Jesus Lederer
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Location: Viņa del Mar, Chile
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Sorry for replying my own thread, but i cannot edit it twice (i edited this thread yesterday).
I have something to add to what i said: If you cannot easily forget those huge bad beats at the moment (because i know itīs really hard), you can try first of all forgeting those hands where you didnīt call preflop and you would hit the nuts. This situation happens more often that a bad beat, so you can "practice" how to clear your head on that hands (because everyone can find an own way to prevent going on tilt).
  #3  
11-05-2005, 12:29 AM
Heshkak
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Nice post Jesus. I've been on tilt a number of times, don't think I've ever handled it as well as you.
  #4  
15-05-2005, 5:42 AM
lil_4ta5
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Plays at: full tilt
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yeah i go on tilt alot. u pobably handle it really well. heres one of my worst beats that sticks out liek a sore thumb. i had AK suited, clubs, nad my friend had AQ spades. the flop came AJx, and i bet a lil bit. my friend raised and i smooth called. turn blank, i go all in and my friend calls immediately, i turn over big slick and he sees hes in bad shape, and you never guess what the river was..... yep the f***er caught his queen and knocked me out. oh boy i felt like tipping the table over.
  #5  
19-05-2005, 10:10 PM
bustac
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Hi jesus, good job with this thread, ur been playing very good, sorry for the last tourney in the final table lol.. i always lost with AJ or AJs, but a was learning..

saludos de chile
  #6  
19-05-2005, 11:43 PM
impressthekid
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hey are you the real jesus like i see on tv or thats just your name well anyways what happen to you sucks but idk why but when i get J 3 i always have to play it because for one reason it always win no mattter what but thats what me and my friend do we have like 10 of us and have $10 $20 dollar buy in but the games always go into the late night but it is always fun inless your the first one to get out well nice thread and gl to you in the future.
  #7  
22-06-2005, 7:18 PM
newmania20000
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lol funny title.
  #8  
22-06-2005, 7:27 PM
MicheleW
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Location: Arizona
Plays at: Paradise
Posts: 461
Cute title ... Were you referring to Jesus the savior or You? In Spanish, I've been told your name is not Jesus, but Haysuse (phonetical spelling) - and your saviour is Cristo not Jesus like ours (both being the same of course but different name). I thought that was intereting to learn from my Spanish speaking friends.

Another word for Tilting is Steaming. I think being on tilt, you just blow your bankroll next hand and steaming is playing several hands after a bad beat recklessly. LOL Both are not good and everyone does it!
  #9  
22-06-2005, 8:06 PM
jimguy123
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iv gone on tilt but the situiation u got to help ur self by not goign on tilt call a hand u mite usually riase
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