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Poker - Doyle Brunson's Super System - too loose?
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Doyle Brunson's Super System - too loose?
I've been reading this book, and I wouldn't necessarily say that I would recommend it for new online players. It's good that he covers a wide range of games, but I find it a little off-putting that he keeps talking about tournaments in 1976 and 1977, and I'm not convinced that advice that would be solid gold for people playing live poker is necessarily totally applicable to online play
The confusing thing for me is that he suggests playing a very wide range of hands, mainly because people don't expect you to, and so you can win big from a flop that appears fairly useless to most people. However, a lot of poker experts seem to suggest that the biggest weakness of most new players is that they play too many hands, and they should make a conscious effort to play fewer hands Surely these two viewpoints are contradictory? |
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That's because it's not a beginner's book.
A LAG style requires good hand reading skill which most new players don't have. Doyle suggests an overly lag style and that in turn requires even more hand reading skill. Others (Harrington comes to mind) suggest a tighter style because it's just plain easier to play and doesn't require much experience. |
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Well he does put a lot of emphasis on reading other players, but a lot of tells don't really seem to apply to the online game as much as they do to live games. From what you're saying it's probably best if I come back and re-read this book after I've gained a lot more experience, maybe in a year or so, because I am currently an extremely inexperienced player
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For online play it's good as just a little bit of knowledge to have under your belt, but you'll make your most money multitabling a tag style in the low/micro limits, and playing tourneys similarly (more aggression is needed in tourneys but you get the point).
You probably won't be able to make much of a profit playing like a maniac online. Most tables will either have people who are loose/bad enough to look you up more often than you'd like, or they'll be smarter players who pick up on your style and start picking your bluffs off. I'd suggest going and picking up the harrington series and some small stakes books. |
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Had a quick look on Amazon but the Harrington tourney books they list all have the word "expert" in the title:
Amazon.co.uk: Harrington on Hold 'em: Expert Strategy for No Limit Tournaments: The Endgame: Amazon.co.uk:: Dan Harrington,Bill Robertie Amazon.co.uk: Harrington on Hold 'em: Expert Strategy for No Limit Tournaments: Strategic Play v. 1: Amazon.co.uk:: Dan Harrington,Bill Robertie Amazon.co.uk: Harrington on Hold 'em: Expert Strategies for No Limit Tournaments: Workbook v. 3 (Harrington on Hold'em): Amazon.co.uk:: Dan Harrington |
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OK thanks, I was just a little concerned that again it might be aimed at more advanced players than me, as it includes the word expert in the title. I was expecting something a little more like "Harrington's Idiot's Guide to Tournament NLHE"
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re: Doyle Brunson's Super System - too loose?
we have also to aware what kind of games that doyle normally play in? he plays in very deep stack cash game....where playing small/medium 1-gap/2-gaps for deception is ok, as the implied odds is large
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As i am mainly a live player and i play with a LAG style. Super system is my favourite poker book, it has helped my game a significant amount and helped me refine the edges in my style considerably. It definately is not a book for beginnered, you would have needed to have palyed poekr for a few months and know a few tricks before attempted to read it
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Doyle is a bit too loose for me online, but Harrington a bit too tight. In a live game I play a bit more tight so Harrington is closer because for the most part people just play better hands live and domination occurs much more frequently.
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Something to consider also about Super System is that when he wrote the book poker was not as popular at that time so it was easier to push people around and be a little more loose with starting hands.
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And on Supersystem, I can't believe no one ever says anything about the portion where he talks of poker actually involving real ESP. I still can't believe a poker player as good as Brunson would actually put that in his book. |
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esp? im with chuck on that one, he refers to applien knowledge gained earlier and trusting you gut instinct alot.
I will try really hard to tell you what i have when we play zach, if you get it right you get a cookie ![]() |
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As far as OP goes... I think most of the points have been raised already. Keep in mind that it's not a beginners book, but also that it's not a low-stakes book either. He's talking about sitting at a table with $20K in front of him, and that was in 1970s dollars - some of the strategies discussed just aren't going to work when the amount of money in the pot will only buy the winner a pack of cigarettes or a six pack. Definitely read it - even if you don't incorporate it all into your game, it'll still help you become a more rounded player. But there are definitely other texts that will help you more in the short term. |
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Actually, reading the reviews of that book it appears that:
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HoH vol 2 is SO POWERFUL !
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but seriously it is a good book |
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