Doubled my BR but not sure (move up or not)

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Cashed in the stars tournament sunday storm,

its basically doubled my bankroll

so last week I had 68 dollars, played 5nl and 4 days later had 115.

then last night I played the sunday storm and end result gave me $223 as my overall bankroll. 487th place. Cash game play helped me be more confident.

I feel confident in my play. I want to move up obviously, but I want to be smart about it.

I feel I should play 5nl for the next week or two and see how that goes.

But i need advice on the do's and don'ts of properly moving up.

I mean im rolled for 10nl right? 20 buy ins
 
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I wouldn't be jumping ships just based on one score doubling your roll.

I mean if it was 10x, going up 1 level for BRM is fine.

I would stick to what your beating at, unless of course you want to take a shot and can always reload/don't care if you bust.
 
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I wouldn't be jumping ships just based on one score doubling your roll.

I mean if it was 10x, going up 1 level for BRM is fine.

I would stick to what your beating at, unless of course you want to take a shot and can always reload/don't care if you bust.

I want to take a shot, but I dont plan on busting, as I do care.
I busted my bank roll once and I said never again.

Do you think taking a shot for one session to see how I feel maybe once a week is a good idea?

Like play 5nl all week and on fridays take a shot at 10nl on one table.
 
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The longer you can wait to bump yourself up stakes, the better off you will be. Even thinking about bigger buy-ins shows an impatience, and that old results-oriented mindset comes into play. So you are bumping up against the 'I don't have forever' wall.

My suggestions would be to continue with a formula that seems to be working; Once a week for the Storm, and whatever else you are doing between Storms.

Remember that a run good is always followed by a run bad. And that sometimes leads (eventually) to a consistent run blah, which is where and when skill takes over.
 
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I want to take a shot, but I dont plan on busting, as I do care.
I busted my bank roll once and I said never again.

Do you think taking a shot for one session to see how I feel maybe once a week is a good idea?

Like play 5nl all week and on fridays take a shot at 10nl on one table.

I mean to be honest, I am the last person here who should be giving BRM adivce haha I am just awful with it.
:rolleyes:

I would stick to what you are at, if you are winning maybe then try it once a week.
 
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I think you should wait for your roll to reach 750 $ or above to start with 10nl. Now would be way too early and will not be good bankroll wise. Be patient and for now just keep grinding 5nl and don't think about moving up for a while. And don't let the excitement get to your head, it will not help you in making solid decisions at the poker table, "just saying" !! Congrats for the storm cash !!:canabis:
 
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all very solid advice.

Ill keep grinding for the next while at 5nl, make sure im winning from good decisions and not good variance.

Bubble burst thanks guys (I joke :p )


Onwards and upward!
 
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20BI's is OK but it's not ideal and do you have a decent sample size of hands that would indicate you are winning at 5NL before you venture into 10NL?
 
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Don't look at it as a "oo I doubled my BR now time to move up" because that isnt good BRM. You should have a set way that you think is good BRM for the way you play. You defintley wanna be well rolled for whatever way you venture. I would not just jump up to $10NL just cause you doubled your BR though. Like way I do it except MTT is different cause BR is short right now. These are all min. Cash-20 max buy ins. SnG-40 buy ins MTTs-100 buy ins. Obviously I am working with peanuts right now so hard to adhere to.
 
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The general rule of thumb is don't stick out more than 5% of your bankroll. The questions I would ask myself are:

Are you confident because you are regularly making the right decisions and averaging ahead on 5nl?

Or are you confident because you got a sudden burst of cash?


Honestly, 10nl is not going to be a huge jump harder than 5nl. You've got the bankroll. If you honestly believe you are equipped to do it, do it.
 
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The general rule of thumb is don't stick out more than 5% of your bankroll. The questions I would ask myself are:

Are you confident because you are regularly making the right decisions and averaging ahead on 5nl?

Or are you confident because you got a sudden burst of cash?


Honestly, 10nl is not going to be a huge jump harder than 5nl. You've got the bankroll. If you honestly believe you are equipped to do it, do it.

Im confident that my decisions where right and that in turn gave me a burst of cash.

However I agree with what has been said in this thread. Im going to keep grinding 5nl and take a shot at 10 nl after I make sure im playing well and not just riding good variance.

Thank you for your comment though :) good to here different opinions.

Cheers Cash Game peeps ! :D
 
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Many tourney players around here, while mostly adhering to good BRM, will reward themselves with a bigger game once in a while when they are in the midst of a run good. For the most part they don't make that bigger game their regular game. A few do.

Only you can know when you are in the midst of a run good.

Since you mainly grind ring, with the occasional MTT, I think it might be harder to determine for yourself if/when you are in the midst of that run good.
 
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For me personally i'm not going to move up levels till i have at least 50 buyins for that level, but i am super conservative so what ever works for you...
 
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It's a bit premature to go up in stakes. Stick with 5nl until it becomes so easy to win at it that you can do it half asleep.
 
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Please keep solid and conservative BRM if you do not want to go broken... Everybody regard himself or herself as the god of Texas Hold'em when the upper swing comes, but so what? After a few hands, there is nothing left as then do not know what the word "stability" means.
 
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Please keep solid and conservative BRM if you do not want to go broken... Everybody regard himself or herself as the god of Texas Hold'em when the upper swing comes, but so what? After a few hands, there is nothing left as then do not know what the word "stability" means.

Yeah, Im gonna keep grinding 5nl.

But i will take a once a week shot at 10nl on 1 table for a 2-3 hour session.
I wont try to make it my regular game just yet.

But 10 dollars once a week just to learn seems ok imo.
some will say dont do it at all, but I am confident I can grind more than 10 dollars a week at 5nl so
Im not risky my whole bank roll.

If I bust on the 10nl table Im not going to rebuy, Im just gonna study my hands.

Anyway thanks for listening
 
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Yeah, Im gonna keep grinding 5nl.

But i will take a once a week shot at 10nl on 1 table for a 2-3 hour session.
I wont try to make it my regular game just yet.

But 10 dollars once a week just to learn seems ok imo.
some will say dont do it at all, but I am confident I can grind more than 10 dollars a week at 5nl so
Im not risky my whole bank roll.

If I bust on the 10nl table Im not going to rebuy, Im just gonna study my hands.

Anyway thanks for listening


I'm not sure if only allocating one buy in for shot taking worthwhile. I mean, are you certain that your play will not be affected at all by the looming fact you only have one bullet?

I don't know about most experts, but now I believe in keeping a 100 BI roll at all times and also need to cash out several dozen buy ins for you to be sure you're beating a level...

Think about it, the one day you reach 200nl, don't you also want to be playing ever so comfortably and withdraw every now and then ? Get into that pattern early i say.

I don't listen to the move up advice anymore. It really is different for everyone, and I think the dispensed advice of 25-30BI is actually hyper aggressive IMO.

Conspiracy theory: pros want you to move up recklessly so you keep shunting money to the higher tables which eventually gets taken by the highest stakers.:D
 
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Moving up is the worst decision any online poker player would do.

Just like in casino(live or online): Youre winning with your "so many" small bets. After a while, you are bored and feel like invincible and so you move up your bets. In just minutes, your 2hour winnings at small bets are gone. LOL.
 
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For me personally i'm not going to move up levels till i have at least 50 buyins for that level, but i am super conservative so what ever works for you...

sorry , but i have to laugh at the irony of what you have written whilst seeing that you play at Lock where your money is worthless because you can't cash it out . that is not an example of conservative bankroll management
 
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I'm not sure if only allocating one buy in for shot taking worthwhile. I mean, are you certain that your play will not be affected at all by the looming fact you only have one bullet?

I don't know about most experts, but now I believe in keeping a 100 BI roll at all times and also need to cash out several dozen buy ins for you to be sure you're beating a level...

Think about it, the one day you reach 200nl, don't you also want to be playing ever so comfortably and withdraw every now and then ? Get into that pattern early i say.

I don't listen to the move up advice anymore. It really is different for everyone, and I think the dispensed advice of 25-30BI is actually hyper aggressive IMO.

Conspiracy theory: pros want you to move up recklessly so you keep shunting money to the higher tables which eventually gets taken by the highest stakers.:D

I dont mind the bullet thing. Im not going to do much different, I think that would be over thinking.

However I do agree with having more BI's before moving up full time.
I just want to see I guess. A bit curious.

Then again, curiousity killed the cat so maybe ill just keep doing what Im doing :)

Tourney on stars tomorrow, with some good rest and a good feed I hope i can run deep like last week!
 
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Yeah, Im gonna keep grinding 5nl.

But i will take a once a week shot at 10nl on 1 table for a 2-3 hour session.
I wont try to make it my regular game just yet.

But 10 dollars once a week just to learn seems ok imo.
some will say dont do it at all, but I am confident I can grind more than 10 dollars a week at 5nl so
Im not risky my whole bank roll.

If I bust on the 10nl table Im not going to rebuy, Im just gonna study my hands.

Anyway thanks for listening

Good idea. Also be a bit cautious of down swings.
 
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