differences between pot limit and nolimit stratagy

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  #1
4th August 2008, 11:22 PM
Stu_Ungar
 
Game: holdem
differences between pot limit and nolimit stratagy

in terms of stratagy is there much difference between no-limit and pot limit?
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  #2
4th August 2008, 11:31 PM
larrdawg69
 
Poker at: Cake, BetUS,
Game: NL Holdem
Pot size

The big difference is the pot size, if you got a good hand in pot limit your not going to get as many chips as you would in no limit. Later in the tourney is when the pots get better and better. If you want to make the most money I've found that no limit is the way to go.
  #3
11th August 2008, 12:34 AM
PooffyFooffy
 
Online Poker at: bodog
Game: Holdem
Limit poker is a science, but no-limit is an art. In limit you are shooting at a target. In no-limit, the target comes alive and shoots back at you.
-- Crandall Addington, Texas oil millionaire




I saw that quote earlier and couldn't resist when I saw this thread
  #4
12th August 2008, 1:14 AM
rozzz5
 
Poker at: Full tilt
Game: HORSE
re: differences between pot limit and nolimit stratagy poker

the main difference is obviously building a pot if you have a good hand so you can bet a large sum by the river. Definitely some interesting aspects that you dont find in NL.
  #5
12th August 2008, 1:18 AM
cAPSLOCK
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: PLO8, NLHE
It's sort of a subtle difference. Not like limit and nl. In some ways I think NL players can sharpen their NL game playing PL (and limit for that matter) to understand what smooth pot control can look like.

That said pots in PLHE can grow pretty big pretty fast depending on action. Raise-reraise a couple times and before you know it you're all in.

The most striking difference is the difficulty to set up an ultra aggressive situation (all in) preflop. Hands get forced further down the streets slightly more often.

I like PL.

cAPS
  #6
12th August 2008, 4:14 PM
aliengenius
 
Poker at: CC LB games
Game: ON !
A couple of quick thoughts:
Play is more post-flop (by definition).
You should be check-raising slightly more often than in NL.

PL play at micro stacks on FT is truly horrible: the pots are always bigger than comparable NL tables, with a far higher vp$ip table percentage as well. Apparently the inability to make large preflop bets convinces the donks that they can play every hand.
  #7
12th August 2008, 4:40 PM
BelgoSuisse
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu_Ungar
in terms of stratagy is there much difference between no-limit and pot limit?
in cash games there shouldn't be too much difference. It's very rare that you overbet the pot anyway. PL does remove a few tools from your arsenal like the CRAI overbet with a strong draw, but that's about it.

Practically, people seem to limp more on PL tables than they do on NL ones.

In tournaments it's a major difference in the later stages as it won't allow you to push/fold until your M is extremely low, and you'll be open to a lot more resteals.
  #8
12th August 2008, 4:41 PM
BelgoSuisse
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
re: differences between pot limit and nolimit stratagy poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by rozzz5
the main difference is obviously building a pot if you have a good hand so you can bet a large sum by the river. Definitely some interesting aspects that you dont find in NL.
Building the pot street by street so that you don't need to overbet the river is something you should also do in NL.
  #9
12th August 2008, 6:29 PM
kidpoker410
 
Online Poker at: fulltilt
Game: NLH
i think that the play styles in no limit and pot limit are almost total opposites. mostly due to the fact that in pot limit u can't be as agressive as in no limit and bet ure opponent off of the weaker hand. this also depends on the game that your playing. if its no limit holdem cash games that ure comparing to pot limit holdem cash games theres certainly times when u would fold AA post or even preflop in a pot limit game whereas in a no limit game there is more of a chance that if u make a substantial raise because u are likely to lower the number of people contesting the pot and further improve your odds of winning the pot. in mtt or sngs i think u also have to play the same way. u have to play agressive in no limit and play slow in pot limit. i only say this because in pot limit people are a lot more likely to call with bottom pairs and such because it doesnt cost them as much to see the next card or two. Especially if its pl omaha hi or 8. Pot limit is about making hands, no limit is about making people believe u have hands.
  #10
14th August 2008, 9:33 PM
PokerVic
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem
I worked my way up through the micro rings playing Limit first, then No Limit. I'm currently playing PL($0.25) exclusively.

Anyone who thinks you can't be aggressive or bluff in pot-limit probably hasn't played much of it. Sure, you lack the ability to overbet the pot, but I think that's often a bad play anyway. Slowplaying is less effective in PL, because you lack the ability to fire off an insane river bet, but again, I think that's a bad strategy that rarely works anyway; so good riddance.

Also, at Poker Stars, I've found that I get almost as many FPP playing PL as I did playing NL at the same level. So, the bets may be capped, but the pots are just as large.

Pot limit gives me lots of opportunities for post-flop play, and I have no problem getting my big hands paid off. It suits my playing style, and I may never play NL again.
  #11
14th August 2008, 10:41 PM
markpro
 
Online Poker at: fulltilt
Game: all poker
the main thing is you cant really over bet the pot. in nolimit some people put others on the spot when they get a good read, or for a serious bluff... or even to scare some other ppl out if there is someone allin and you dont want too many ppl to take the shoot at it. These little things come together to form a howl different strategy. In nolimit you are pushed to do things when someone raises 2 or 3 times the pot or even allin, but in pot limit since this will never happen, you can make calls for certain draws that some people would try to scare you off of, as well as other situations .
  #12
14th August 2008, 11:00 PM
PokerVic
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem
re: differences between pot limit and nolimit stratagy poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by markpro
In nolimit you are pushed to do things when someone raises 2 or 3 times the pot or even allin, but in pot limit since this will never happen, you can make calls for certain draws that some people would try to scare you off of, as well as other situations .
Discounting implied odds, a pot-sized bet is denying you odds to call on almost any draw. People calling pot with a flush draw are playing badly. In PL, you can still play badly, but in NL, you can play much worse.
  #13
15th August 2008, 4:10 PM
Double-A
 
Online Poker at: bodog
Game: NOT PLHE!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu_Ungar
in terms of stratagy is there much difference between no-limit and pot limit?
Implied Odds. Since there is less danger of getting your whole stack in on early streets than in no limit you can play more middle/low pairs and suited connectors. Call a few small bets on the early streets hoping to catch and make bigger bets on the turn/river.
 



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