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#1 21st January 2012, 2:38 AM

yeah, was perusing the pokerstars shop online and found this little beauty:

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I wear a new era hat 24/7 (force of habit now) so this is the next one on my list!

and booked my 2nd winning session online, officially in profit as a total, but I'm only winning at 5nl..

gonna give 10nl another try in a few hours, hopefully I'll do a bit better..

so my post is to ask any micro-grinders if there's any differences between 5nl and 10nl? still trying to find this problem/leak..

- Campbell92

#2 21st January 2012, 2:42 AM

#3 21st January 2012, 2:43 AM

no to what?

#4 21st January 2012, 2:46 AM

No real difference other than what's in your head.

#5 21st January 2012, 2:48 AM

the higher you go the more poker you have to play. at the $5 nl for the most part they play real tag. as you go up they sre not folding when they miss the board.

#6 21st January 2012, 2:53 AM

Fair enough, that makes more sense. We'll see after this session then hopefully, I'll post some HA later.

and I know complex, just didnt think this made much of a difference at the micros.

#7 21st January 2012, 12:17 PM

I found a few minor differences between 5NL and 10NL
-slightly less fish
-more PF aggression
-easier to get paid off when you have a big hand
For the last reason I actually found 10NL easier than 5NL or at least no more difficult
For me 10NL=5NL>>>>>>>>>>>>>2NL

GL

#8 21st January 2012, 12:21 PM

more multitabling nits?

lol, I kinda skipped 10nl.. playin 25nl now, super fish on those tables! only playing 2 atm and I'm up two buyins

the size of the pots is quite worrying so I'm not getting it in without the goods as often, but apart from that 25nl is ok

hows your roll doing micro? you stopped posting in your thread i swear..

#9 21st January 2012, 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVHillbilly

No real difference other than what's in your head.

+1

#10 22nd January 2012, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Campbell92

hows your roll doing micro? you stopped posting in your thread i swear..

not too bad, $225 atm

been playing some 2NL recently for fun and to build it up a bit

#11 22nd January 2012, 2:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micromachine

not too bad, $225 atm

been playing some 2NL recently for fun and to build it up a bit

ohh 2nl! lol, your way too over-rolled for that.. jump up!

#12 22nd January 2012, 9:27 AM

I smell a train wreck ITT.

#13 22nd January 2012, 9:46 AM

Me too lol

Starting a thread asking about the differences between 5 and 10nl then playing 25nl 4 posts later is awesome, how much is in ur roll op??

#14 22nd January 2012, 10:15 AM

I know haha, atm is 672..

was 705, then went down to 600 due to coolers etc

so yeah, now tryna get back to 700 and a break lol

25nl is so swingy to your roll though, i might grind make it 30+ buyins before I think about 50nl

#15 22nd January 2012, 11:23 AM

Acky will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the last time I looked it went something like:-

25NL >>> 10NL >>>>>> 5NL <<< 2NL >>>> 100NL

#16 22nd January 2012, 1:05 PM

[ ] Thorough understanding of variance ITT

#17 22nd January 2012, 1:11 PM

Jagsti do you have anything decent to say? Id start with the pointless abuse, but yeah.. it's pointless.

Go about your business mate, I posted for some feedback not some arsey comments.

#18 22nd January 2012, 1:40 PM

You make a thread talking about differences at 5 and 10nl, next minute your playing 25nl even though you have only booked your 2nd session ever online....

Sorry op You're right I have nothing positive to say.

#19 22nd January 2012, 1:59 PM

right **** it, let me state my situation:

- I started off at 10nl and was playin 20+ tables at once full of super nitty multitabling regs that never put the money in without the goods
- Win-rate was horrible, so I jumped down in limits to 5nl and started playing there
- Picked better tables and started winning, so played there until I made my losses back (and then some)
- Posted this thread to see if there were any significant differences between the two
- Started back at 10nl with better table selection and started winning there too
- Had a look at 25nl to check out the skill level of the players there and saw a free place at a table with 5 complete fish with full stacks and took a shot with a BR of 575 and won 2 buyins in 1-2 hours
- Now I'm just short of 700 and rolled for 25nl..

and yeah, you don't seem have anything positive to say, you didn't even need to post.. it doesn't make a difference to you does it?

But the question is.. if I'm rolled for 25nl, why play at 10nl? I'm way over-rolled and I'm winning at 25nl atm.. my sample size is low, but I can only get more hands logged by playing at that limit so there's a problem in itself tbh. 25 buyins is enough to play at that limit, it's not as if I'm playing with 4 buyins is it.

So yeah, what would you have me do (serious question) if you have anything to say apart from that stupid [] thing?

#20 22nd January 2012, 3:41 PM

You posted this thread yesterday and asked a question about 5-10nl and its differences. You have now stated in that time you have played 5nl, gone to 10nl back to 5nl then upto 10nl now you're at 25nl and you think your winning!

Just because you win a couple of buy ins at a particular level doesn't mean your a wining player at that level. Play 10-20k hands at a particular level then decide whether moving up is within your bankroll requirements.

I have no problems with anyone playing 25nl with 30 buy ins, sounds reasonable to me tbh. I'm having trouble understanding why you're jumping around from stake to stake and asking about differences between a 5/10nl.

I fear you have no understanding of BRM or variance and basically this thread was some sort of a brag, but will most likely end up in some train wreck of some description.

However, good luck to you and I will not post in here anymore.

If you do wish to learn some BRM skills and learn about the nuances of online cash games then please read up on these threads in this link. See I do have some positive advice to give you.

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#21 22nd January 2012, 5:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Campbell92

right **** it, let me state my situation:

- I started off at 10nl and was playin 20+ (bad) tables at once full of super nitty multitabling regs that never put the money in without the goods
- Win-rate was horrible, so I jumped down in limits to 5nl and started playing there (only sensible thing you've said)
- Picked better tables and started winning, so played there until I made my losses back (and then some) Sample size?? How much did you lose at 10nl and how much did you then win back at 5??
- Posted this thread (yesterday)to see if there were any significant differences between the two
- Started back at 10nl with better table selection and started winning there too Again, sample size, and how much did you win??
- Had a look at 25nl to check out the skill level of the players there and saw a free place at a table with 5 complete fish with full stacks and took a shot with a BR of 575 and won 2 buyins in 1-2 hours (Not a bad thing to do, if you know theyre fish, how many hands do you have on the 5 complete fish that makes you sure they're def a complete fish though??)
- Now I'm just short of 700 and rolled for 25nl.. Being rolled for a limit isnt everything, how big is your sample sizes at 5nl and 10nl, winrates at both??

and yeah, you don't seem have anything positive to say, you didn't even need to post.. it doesn't make a difference to you does it?

But the question is.. if I'm rolled for 25nl, why play at 10nl? Because you'll lose less whilst learning I'm way over-rolled and I'm winning at 25nl atm exactly what jagsti was talking about, just because you won 2 bi's in 500 hands at 25nl it doesnt mean shit.. my sample size is low, but I can only get more hands logged by playing at that limit so there's a problem in itself tbh. 25 buyins is enough to play at that limit, it's not as if I'm playing with 4 buyins is it.

So yeah, what would you have me do (serious question) if you have anything to say apart from that stupid [] thing?

Pointing out that theres been a complete ignorance of variance is the only sensible thing to say here.

Just seems that your flying around the limits and don't have a clue tbh, you've gone from losing at 10nl to playing 25nl in a day and all because youve ran good, can you not see how this might be setting you up to fall???

You might go on the heater of your life and make us look like dicks, the most likely thing that will happen though is that you go busto.

#22 22nd January 2012, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangepeeleo

Pointing out that theres been a complete ignorance of variance is the only sensible thing to say here.

Just seems that your flying around the limits and don't have a clue tbh, you've gone from losing at 10nl to playing 25nl in a day and all because youve ran good, can you not see how this might be setting you up to fall???

You might go on the heater of your life and make us look like dicks, the most likely thing that will happen though is that you go busto.

Fair enough, so what would you have me do.. move back down to 10nl and get hands logged there or what?

I've got 23k hands logged atm.. (I know its not much) but my problem is there that to see if im winning over a decent sample or just running good, I need to play at that level so..

#23 22nd January 2012, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagsti

You posted this thread yesterday and asked a question about 5-10nl and its differences. You have now stated in that time you have played 5nl, gone to 10nl back to 5nl then upto 10nl now you're at 25nl and you think your winning!

Just because you win a couple of buy ins at a particular level doesn't mean your a wining player at that level. Play 10-20k hands at a particular level then decide whether moving up is within your bankroll requirements.

I have no problems with anyone playing 25nl with 30 buy ins, sounds reasonable to me tbh. I'm having trouble understanding why you're jumping around from stake to stake and asking about differences between a 5/10nl.

I fear you have no understanding of BRM or variance and basically this thread was some sort of a brag, but will most likely end up in some train wreck of some description.

However, good luck to you and I will not post in here anymore.

If you do wish to learn some BRM skills and learn about the nuances of online cash games then please read up on these threads in this link. See I do have some positive advice to give you.

5k post (-1kish) Compendium Of CC Threads

No brags, and yeah will deffo read up. I wasnt against what you said, just how you said it tbh.

#24 22nd January 2012, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cafeman31

Acky will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the last time I looked it went something like:-

25NL >>> 10NL >>>>>> 5NL <<< 2NL >>>> 100NL

**** YOU! ARGH IM TILTING SO BAD NOW!

atleast there isn't a thread like this every week anyways.

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