Deep stack play

#1 27th May 2010, 2:14 AM

Finding myself with very deep stacks more and more at 5NL, e.g. yesterday on 4 tables: $30 (600BBs), $17 (340BBs), $9 & $9 (180BBs), and today I've got $15/$10/$9/$8.

I know I'm meant to open up as big stack, especially versus other big stacks, because of implied odds? For a while today there was a $15 stack next to my $15.

Don't really know how to do it though, so was hoping for some help `

#2 27th May 2010, 2:19 AM

YOu have to play aggressively specially against low stacks, eventually they'll end up tilting and going all in with limited hand you could get some advantage of it. You should play more tightly with deep stack players.

Over all you have to know everyone on your table, so you can change the way you play and get more profit.

#3 27th May 2010, 3:29 AM

If there are other guys with deep stacks then you can open up against them a bit. You want to play hands that are going to make strong hands that they'll still stack with. I dunno for sure, but I'd expect a lot of 5nl players to stack grossly light 200bb deep, even 300, cuz a lot of them will be average players who just happened to stack a guy or two. I'd not be surprised to see guys shipping 200+bb stacks with TPTK or overpairs, but you'll have to figure out what their ranges are for yourself.

Otherwise, it doesn't matter how deep you are, cuz effective stacks remain the same.

#4 27th May 2010, 5:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mase31683

If there are other guys with deep stacks then you can open up against them a bit. You want to play hands that are going to make strong hands that they'll still stack with. I dunno for sure, but I'd expect a lot of 5nl players to stack grossly light 200bb deep, even 300, cuz a lot of them will be average players who just happened to stack a guy or two. I'd not be surprised to see guys shipping 200+bb stacks with TPTK or overpairs, but you'll have to figure out what their ranges are for yourself.

Otherwise, it doesn't matter how deep you are, cuz effective stacks remain the same.

I think it is far more likely they stack with overpairs, not sure they will so much with tptk

#5 27th May 2010, 6:29 PM

Deep stack vs. deep stack is an odd combination of opening up your play and tightening up at the same time.

Against deep stacks, you don't want to stack off with a weak/marginal hand (like TPTK/Overpair). So you tighten up your play a fair amount on the turn/river. But you want to loosen up your play earlier in the hand by playing more speculative hands that function well with high implied odds and SPR. These hands are very good against big stacks, because they make BIG hands and the payoff potential is huge. These same hands lose value against shorter (100bb-) stacks.

#6 27th May 2010, 7:45 PM

Awesome, cheers Lofwyr I've downloaded a few deepstack videos off DC, but for the minute I'm just leaving the table when I get to ~250BB and starting up a new one!.

#7 27th May 2010, 7:49 PM

deep stacked you can play your strong hands without fear, with a deep stack in position you can pressure the blinds into folding unless they are strong. you can also change up your game a lot of times to confuse your opponents.

#8 3rd June 2010, 9:27 PM

Can you please post your deep stack videos, it is very helpful to me. I wanna watch that video.

#9 3rd June 2010, 10:27 PM

Look up the Lightsabers Two series on DeucesCracked - they aren't all relevant but most are

#10 3rd June 2010, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douggyfr3sh

I think it is far more likely they stack with overpairs, not sure they will so much with tptk

+1
I have been getting deepstacked recently too in 5nl (aa vs kk preflop anyone?), and I definitely think this is true. they will give you a lot for sure. but if a guy has 20 dollars, most wont throw it away on one pair.

#11 4th June 2010, 12:09 AM

learn to play 100bb stacks correctly before moving on to deeper stacks.

Easiest solution would be for you to leave a table after doubling up... its not like finding tables full of fish is difficult at 5nl.

#12 4th June 2010, 10:18 AM

No, but sometimes you get that dream fish who has luckboxed his way to $15 with 26o v AA, and I'd like to know how to take all their money

#13 4th June 2010, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pascal LeFiscal

No, but sometimes you get that dream fish who has luckboxed his way to $15 with 26o v AA, and I'd like to know how to take all their money

One thing at a time.

Learn to play 100bb well.

Besides you don't need to know how to play deep-stacked against this type of player. Wait for a premium hand and get the money in.

I mean if you think he is flatting 3bets and flatting the flop in an attempt to merge his range, you are giving him way too much credit.

If you think he is just a bad player.. wait for a hand that's likely best and get the money in as quickly as possible.

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