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  #1  
22-01-2008, 10:51 PM
Bentheman87
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Continuation bet quiz

Pretend you have an AQ unsuited and raised from early position early in the middle of a big tournament. The button called and the blinds folded. For each of these flops would you make a continuation bet of 1/2 to 3/4 pot or check?

First flop: K 8 2 all different suits

Second flop: 5 5 8 all different suits

Third flop: K J 7 all different suits

Fourth flop: K 8 2 but a flush draw and you don't have any piece of the flush draw

Fifth flop: 6 7 8 all different suits

Sixth flop: Q Q 6 all different suit

Which flops would you bluff at and which would you just check fold?
 

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  #2  
22-01-2008, 10:58 PM
zachvac
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Depends on opponent, I use PAHUD to give me stats for cbets. If the fold to cbet stat is particularly high, I cbet on any of those flops. On the one where I flop trips I do the opposite, if the fold to cbet is low I bet, if it's high I check and hope for a bet.
  #3  
22-01-2008, 11:23 PM
jaymfc
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I c-bet all but the qq , otherwise you check and they know they got ya . I don't like to be in this sitution so I limp or fold this hand in early pos .

this is just a quiz though , I'm not saying anyone else should play like me .
  #4  
22-01-2008, 11:25 PM
Gobbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bentheman87
Pretend you have an AQ unsuited and raised from early position early in the middle of a big tournament. The button called and the blinds folded. For each of these flops would you make a continuation bet of 1/2 to 3/4 pot or check?

First flop: K 8 2 all different suits

Second flop: 5 5 8 all different suits

Third flop: K J 7 all different suits

Fourth flop: K 8 2 but a flush draw and you don't have any piece of the flush draw

Fifth flop: 6 7 8 all different suits

Sixth flop: Q Q 6 all different suit

Which flops would you bluff at and which would you just check fold?
Of course, it depends on the opponent more than anything, but...

1. Continuation bet 80% of the time.
2. Continuation bet 60% of the time.
3. Continuation bet 50% of the time.
4. Continuation bet 75% of the time.
5. Continuation bet 75% of the time.
6. Continuation bet 33% of the time.

I may be a bit high on some of those percentages...not sure.
  #5  
22-01-2008, 11:56 PM
OzExorcist
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Naturally the answer is "it depends" in all cases, but...

I think I c-bet a lot of the time on all of them other than KJ7 and QQ6.

In the KJ7 example, I'm worried that my opponent won't be folding enough to make the play profitable: chances are if he called the pre-flop raise he'll have hit enough of that flop to warrant calling. So I probably c-bet this some of the time, on the chance that they called with a medium pair or something, but it wouldn't be my routine play.

In the QQ6 example, I can afford to check and see what my opponent does, and a free card is unlikely to hurt me.
  #6  
23-01-2008, 1:05 AM
Egon Towst
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bentheman87
For each of these flops would you make a continuation bet of 1/2 to 3/4 pot or check?
Apart from the main question, I think it`s important to consider bet sizing. If you make a bet at the level suggested on the draw-heavy flops, you price in the draws, which is surely the opposite of what you are trying to accomplish.
  #7  
23-01-2008, 2:03 AM
OzExorcist
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It depends on what the draw is, but 3/4 of the pot should be enough to have all but the biggest combo draws paying the wrong price.
  #8  
23-01-2008, 2:09 AM
royalburrito24
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So far everyone has said that they will not c-bet the QQ6 flop. If you are up against an observant opponent that seems to re raise/call a lot of c-bets, you most likely want to bet out and represent a missed flop. Think about it this way: When you bet out at this flop your opponent most likely thinks "if he had a Q here, he would check to slow play." Then they either raise you or call to take it away on the turn. If you check, your opponent knows you hit that board strong.
  #9  
23-01-2008, 2:17 AM
dj11
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yes
yes
no
no
no
yes

All answers should be considered conditional, and non-binding
  #10  
23-01-2008, 8:55 PM
switch0723
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I c - bet all, All of them are raggy and are unlikely to have helped a caller enough to challenge you. Checking the q,q one is fishy. The only dangerous one is k,j one, but we have outs to c bet with.
 



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