Confidence In Your Reads

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  #1
7th June 2009, 8:47 PM
dumpy620_84
 
Poker at: Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
Confidence In Your Reads

Pretty soft table overall, pretty much the norm for low level SnG's.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $30/$60
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $2805
UTG+1: $4350
CO: $1775
Button: $425
SB: $1475
Hero: $2670

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 6 Q
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 8 Q Q ($240, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $180, UTG calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: A ($780, 3 players)
Hero bets $600, UTG raises to $1600, Button folds, Hero raises all-in $2430, UTG calls.

River: 5 ($5640, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $5640)


Results:
Final pot: $5640
Hero showed 6h Qh
UTG showed Qc 9c


The little voice in my head was screaming that he had me beat on the kicker. I disregarded it and pushed anyway. Anyone think they could have folded it?

Normally I wouldn't even question the hand, it's just that I went against all my instincts.
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  #2
8th June 2009, 12:58 AM
silverslugger33
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: HORSE
You can't fold here, but you don't have to go all in. You could just call and save yourself 800 chips.
  #3
8th June 2009, 2:18 AM
Poker Orifice
 
Poker at: kitchen tabl
Game: NLHE
You could call... but you don't have enough chips for when you shove river that it's going to really matter either way. It's all going in on the river regardless.
  #4
8th June 2009, 5:27 AM
Brann6
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Holdem
Never go broke in an unraised pot. (Doyle Brunson)

My cardinal rule...and one I break more often than I should.
  #5
8th June 2009, 5:45 AM
Kuberr
 
Poker at: Doyle's Room
Game: Holdem
re: Confidence In Your Reads poker

Eh, I think you got unlucky here. I mean, you could fold after the re-raise, but it's hard to let go of triple Q's. The odds he had the other one were pretty low too. I think the biggest error here might be calling with Q6. I mean, sure, you'll win most of the hands you hit, but it can also kill you since you have such a low kicker. At this point, with your stack and such low blinds, I don't think you need to play this hand anyway.
  #6
8th June 2009, 7:05 AM
left52side
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt.
Game: holdem
Quote:
Never go broke in an unraised pot. (Doyle Brunson)

My cardinal rule...and one I break more often than I should.
Good point here usually I try to go by this golden rule.
But givin the information I think I would have done the same thing.
I would like to know how the UTG had been playing.
That would help me determain if I was beat.
If you thought you were beat then I would probably trust my read and have let it go.
It is although A rather hard laydown to make .
  #7
8th June 2009, 9:21 AM
jdeliverer
 
Poker at: FTP
Game: NLHE now
It's all in (YES) or fold (NO)

calling = bad
  #8
9th June 2009, 9:08 AM
HipHopStoner
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Getting reads online is difficult but some people notice things that others don't, like my friend for example; He isn't the best poker player on the block by no means but his reads online are for the most part usually impeccable and when he goes with it he is usually right.

I usually don't get reads except for knowing when people seems weak and you can pick up a pot.
  #9
9th June 2009, 9:44 AM
kidkvno1
 
Poker at: Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
I have Confidence in my reads, thought i think i would of been all-in...
I also try to play cards with a higher kicker, also a raise preflop would of been good.
I would of raised it with limper's in the pot...
Quote:
Never go broke in an unraised pot. (Doyle Brunson)

My cardinal rule...and one I break more often than I should.
I will have to remember that.
  #10
9th June 2009, 10:01 AM
JT1swaggin
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NLHE
re: Confidence In Your Reads poker

I like the aggression on the flop take it down there but after you get a caller you need to slow down. He's probably not re-raising you less than a queen. Considering the kicker does not play you're in a bad spot but because of his position in the hand I would assume he has at least q10, q9 actually was a fairly lose call utg. Either way I would try to get to a showdown as cheap as possible and prevent myself from getting too much of my stack in right here to where I can't fold.
  #11
9th June 2009, 5:41 PM
VerbalKint
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
I agre with JT1. Once he calls it on the flop you have to try to see the rest of the cards as cheap as possible, unless u hit the boat. Tough to fold flopped trips but its easy to get beat with them.
 



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