Common Online Poker Mistakes by Rory Monahan

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Thanks for the tips!!! Hope my play gets better.

"The "Commonly Accepted Formula" is this:

A delayed check = Weakness

Instantaneous call = Strength

Instantaneous check = Weakness

Quick bet/raise on turn or river = Strength"

I think this is a bunch of crap. For example, I always act fast, not out of some strange notion of what people are going to think, but due to the fact I have 4-5 tables going at once and want to get down to business...

I agree, often when I am on a marginal call/fold scenario, and I am thinking, my mate will shout over the top "Call" or "all-in" etc, and I find myself doing what he has just said, almost without questioning it!!! It is crazy, but afterwards I think why did/didn't I call/raise/fold that - as it wouldn't be the normal move that I would make without interference.

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Amen, sister. With all due respect to Rory and everyone else who's ever written a poker manual, there's only one poker "Bible" and it's Super System.

very helpfull again. thanks for the insight

Great advice, especially the talking too much section.

Very interesting thread with a couple nuggets of wisdom in it. I like it a lot.

guilty on most counts thanks

My biggest problem this past week was getting distracted by my kids (running around the house yelling) during two tournaments. Lost my focus and made impulsive moves that cost me. Maybe a set of chains and some tape will help ... hehe

This is my first post...WOO HOO...I have to disagree with the whole time frame betting thing. I'm a speed better no matter if it's online of offline...If I don't have the players read after a while, then I, personally, shouldn't be playing. I always know what I'm gonna do within a matter of seconds, whether it's bluff, raise, call, or fold...works best for me and has gotten me far.

Rammer is the super system u mentioned by Doyle Brunson? Anyway that was a great guide, thumbs up. I think the most difficult skill to master on the simplest level is the ability to control your emotions and feelings while playing poker. The best example is getting on tilt. Alot of people say that they wont get on tilt, but it does happen, it is after all human nature and most of the time people lose out in these kinds of situations. Also another thing which is difficult to do is to fold a good hand, etc two top pairs, and trips.

How do both a delayed check AND instantaneous check show weakness? Or are you just saying that checking shows weakness?

very true very true you couldnt have said it better

Yes, I've done this many times before. It works wonders when everyone is auto-checking because it will encourage someone to step up and attempt to bluff. That's when you punish them for their foolish arrogance! MUAHAHAHA! MUAHAHAHA!

Awesome actually. I'll keep all those rules in mind next game I play/

Hey I just kind of tested this theory out, lol. In this case it seemed to work. It was in a $10 MTT (235 players). I have AK, He has QJ. Preflop I bet $225, He calls. Flop comes A,A,Rag. I (just after reading this) got autocheck on. He checks 1st, then It autochecks. Turn is a Q. He bets $300 I raise $600, He calls. River is a K. He sets me all in. He ends up with 200 bucks left I think the autocheck gave him confidence, but thats just speculation. I'm gonna try this again.

as i dont agree with everything said here.most of it is on the money.

Thanks for the advice.Looking back on it most people do use the auto check,and it is a good indicator of hand.I alot of these are common sense,but it nice to be reminded of it

Great advice Thanks see one of my mistakes and corrected it.

Interesting post ... used thhis technique today on a sng worked great

Disagree with this to an extent. Not saying you should be a jerk, but if another player is a jerk and makes a snide or rude comment and you can get under their skin with a reply, I wouldn't necessarily advise against it.

I was just playing in an SnG. Me and another guy to the flop, who had been pretty brash and criticizing the play of others at the table. I'm in the BB with rags. I miss, but make a smallish bet at the pot and the guy calls. The turn gives me a straight draw, I check to him. He makes a very tiny bet in relation to the pot, and I call. The river gives me my straight. I bet big and he calls. He shows that he flopped trips. "unbelievable. nice catch.." he says, to which I replied "nicer slowplay lol". He says: "I'm gonna have all your chips".

This sets up a later hand. I have QQ and I raise 4 BBs from MP. Sure enough he's the only caller. Flop comes 5 8 T rainbow. I bet a little more than half the pot and just as I thought he would, he pushes all-in (with a bigger than average stack). I call and he shows 44. Blank blank, and I take a very large pot to become chip leader.

You WANT players to let their emotions get in the way of their game. It's a mistake, and your opponents mistakes are how your profit in Poker.

I absolutely agree and was just about to say the same thing. If someone is playing for you, instead of for money, they are playing poorly and giving you room to take advantage of thier mistake(s). If you can find the right person who is easily swept up by thier emotions, by all means take advantage of it! Dont avoid it!

Mistake No. 8: making sure you hit the right button.

Nothing stirs more rage when I accidentally fold the nuts with a huge pot (recently happened just a few days ago – haven’t been online since).

thanks gr8t advise

Some very good tips here, Thanks for posting.

very good tips....have encountered that i am instant enemy because of the brutus buckeye avatar by buckeyes haters. have been thinking about changing it just because of this reason

id do good on a ring table and think well hell if i play two tables then i make even more. mistake. i dont really change my play but i think by using the auto buttons or my timing with bets...(checking too quick or not intentionally making people think im thinking about calling a bet when holding the nuts). took a few attempts and figured out that while some people play muti tables and it keeps them from getting bored and playing too many hands its just not for me. i can USUALLY double my money or close to it when playing single table but when i go to two it goes down hill.

i do agree with this to an extent. if you have someone that is gunning for you after sucking out on them it can be a good thing but dont attempt to bluff anything with that person in the hand. they will more than likely always call you. i think its a double edged sword that has to handled very carefully.

I would echo the overplaying your starting hand. I can't believe people go all-in preflop with like a KJ. Even if I'm OTB, I'd still only bet about 3-5X BB and then be worried if an A hits the board. I'd be ready to get away from the hand. If you go All-In preflop, you will get a caller early on and then you are stuck if someone was playing his Ax. I know there are the people who just try to get lucky on free money games, but in real money games, I don't understand it.

I have been playing at the $3 SNGs (trying to build a cushion to move up to the $5 SNs) and I find that so many people go out quick by severely overplaying their starting hand. I mean, $3 bucks isn't a lot of money - but it's still money. I won a SNG last night where I got away from a hand that I've seen so many play to the end. I had KK and raised preflop 3X blind. One caller. Flop came out with Axx. I check and he comes back with a $600 raise - I lay the hand down. I typed in that I didn't want to lay that down and the A was the one card I didn't want to see. He asked if I had KK and I said yeah...his respone "good lay down". He said a little more, but it was obvious he wasn't use to people laying that down on him in online poker. Anway - I see people hit their K but there is an A on the board and they way overplay it. So many people are sucked in by the check-raise. They pair their K but an A comes out. Someone checks and they go all-in and play right into the check.

Also - I own "The Cooler" and it is a good movie.

[quote=combuboom;443890] So many people are sucked in by the check-raise. They pair their K but an A comes out. Someone checks and they go all-in and play right into the check.quote]

or pair with Ace on flop falling into same thing with someone that has

I agree totally with this information. I cannot tell you the number of times I used to autocheck whenever the flop came out on absolute poker. Some of the times it did not do anything to my game, but other times, whenever players would either go all in or raise really high at the instant that I would click the auto-check button, the "call" button would come up instead of the "check" button - which means I lose alot of money.

This did not happen 2 many times to me, but when it did and I had crap cards, I was severely pissed at myself for using these "auto" buttons.

Now I do not use the auto check buttons that much, but when I do, I am extremely careful now.

Has this happened to anyone else? or am I just victim to bad luck?

When I first started - I'd sometimes have the button come up to call. I wouldn't be paying attention and would hit call not realizing someone went all-in before me and I'd call the All-In.

basically...this is what i got out of this post..

Don't distract yourself. Checking means weakness, betting/raising fast means strength, don't talk, and don't show your cards...

i take issue with 2 of these... you can check adn not be weak....sometimes checkign is the correct action, and taking time to do it, or doing it immidiately doesn't matter....why not speed the game up when you KNOW you're going to check? Second...talking isn't bad, just don't change the way you do it... if you're always a jackass, then continue to be one, if you are a nice person (which i reccomend, it makes people play looser against you) then don't fly off the handle when someone wins.

Such a good point! I play at least twice as many pots as I should out of boredom. It's the number one aspect of my game that has kept me from making a profit at online poker.

Good post, in regards to timing tells, a quick check or call very often means a draw instead of a strong hand. Agree with the rest. Other big mistakes include

playing weak hands out of position
wrong bet sizing
not quiting when tilting
slowplaying to much
not value betting the river enough
not inducing a river bluff by checking, when oponent obviously missed his draw.
not spending enought time on game selection

just a couple that came to my mind ...