Check raising flops in cash games

#1 13th January 2009, 9:45 PM

How often do people c/r flops and what is a good time to do so? I cant think of anytime where my standard play is to c/r and wonder if its a big deal. I c/c plently and mix up my turn play but wondering if i should be c/r more?

#2 13th January 2009, 9:56 PM

From Sklansky No limit Hold'em Theory and practice the only standard C/R situation is when you call a preflop raise oop.

Other than that there are very few situations where a c/r is better than just betting and they are highly siutational/villian specific. I almost never do it, but then I play at the monkey levels so it isn't really necessary.

#3 13th January 2009, 9:59 PM

I guess that would lead to the question, why would someone ever call a preflop raise OOP?

#4 13th January 2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by widowmaker89

I guess that would lead to the question, why would someone ever call a preflop raise OOP?

If the stacks are really deep 200bb for example, villian is super tight but spews implied odds and doesn't preflop raise properly you might with a pocket pair type hand.

#5 13th January 2009, 10:05 PM

I think mostly I'm ch-r my monster hands and big draws, and then bluffing in spots where my opponent has a high fold cbet to ch-r % and the board cooperates. It's the main way I balance my cold calling range postflop. Otherwise I'm donking with similar hands (monsters, draws, bluffs).

There are plenty of spots to call oop. ex: If your opponent is a lag, you have KJ and his 4bet % is huge. Call, flop a pair, let him barrel. Or, call, miss your pair, c/r bluff or some other bluffy line.

#6 13th January 2009, 10:12 PM

You run into a lot of people with high 4bet % and not a high 3bet flop%?

#7 13th January 2009, 10:20 PM

Yep. Lots of people who know how to lag it up pf but only know how to bet/bet/bet postflop not knowing how to deal with resistance.

I'll also flat a lot of KQ type hands against tags who don't fold to 3bets too often andplay really well when they call.

I agree in general you should stick to more 3bet/folding oop, but there are definitely a lot of spots to flat.

#8 13th January 2009, 10:43 PM

I check raise like, flops & stuff. Bluffs, monsters, medium strength TPTK hands against the spewy stations, sometimes for protection. Uh... yeah.

I rarely donk into the PFR from OOP. But then again, I'm rarely calling OOP either so.... yeah. Prolly way too vague, but it was kinda a vague question. But I x/r just about every TAG's c-bets once in a while just because they all c-bet too much on boards that obviously miss their range.

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