Chasing people away preflop 10nl

AA, KK and AK are the only things a 3bet with preflop. When I do 3bet it is only KK or AA and sometime AK I get action from. Many times I've had KK and shoved to a 3bet an every time its bn aces. If they don't have these they fold and I pick up the standard raise and blinds which isn't much for big hands. When can I slow play or is there any other way to extract value? It seems 3betting at 10nl pretty much gives your hand away...

You have to polaris your range.Look around through the threads here it as been discussed on here many times by ppl that know more than me.Simple gist of it is 3bet monsters and trash like 27,39,etc.But not hands that have vaule ex.AJs,QKs,etc.

I play 10NL too. IMO, the only way to consistantly make money at 10NL is from getting into big hands with bad players. 3bet shoving with KK against a loose player is fine since their range is wider than AA. But sometimes it's OK to see a flop with a smaller 3bet. Then if an Ace flops, you can decide from there. Maybe try a 3bet half stack or so and see what happens. (NOTE: My opinions here apply to my personal 10NL experiences only. I'm NOT an expert. )

If people only call/raise 3bets with KK/AA it would seem to me that you should be 3betting a LOT, because they'll be folding a LOT. Since the average PFR for these type of players is likely something like 12% they're going to be folding to 3bets ~90% of the time if your assumptions are correct.

at 100bb stacks a 4bet does not have to be a shove.

If you are using PT3 then you should be able to figure KK's equity against a villain's 3bet range. If villain is 3betting say, 3% (JJ+, AK) KK has 62% equity against that range. AA only makes up about 1/7 of that so if you 4bet to say 30bb and villain shoves AA and folds or flats the rest you can make a profit by folding to a 5bet shove and check/ jamming any flop without an Ace if they call.

Sure, if you're only 3betting 2% of the time...

We're gonna fold to all of your 3bets unless we have aces.

Okay I see, what other hands should I 3-bet?

Why do you 3bet AK but not JJ or QQ?

im pretty much like you, but in position i will usually 3 bet queens too, but should i be 3 betting QQ, OOP also? just so i know if i get shoved they have KK or AA, and to make the villain think i could be holding those also? I find it tricky at the micros to 3bet with hands like JJ and QQ as most people will simply call with an Ace,king or sometimes just any pocket pair or other average hands...

Lol heaven forbid they call our raise with an ace, king or worse pair

So is 3betting 99-JJ a leak then?

How about start small by widening your 3bet range to include QQ from late position.

One other thing... If you are only 3betting quality hands, have any of your opponents caught on to this?

When would be another good time to three bet?

Well, if you're only 3betting 3 hands (AA,KK, & AK) then I'd try doubling it to 6 hands: TT+ and AK.

Now we won't know if you have TT, AKo, or AA... we'll call you more often... even if we don't call, you shouldn't be too disappointed in picking up our raise + the blinds... that's mulch... and that's beneficial to your garden.

I'd certainly generally be 3betting QQ but not JJ/TT against most villians. You could try adding some hands like 78s/89s/98s. I mean TT/JJ are folds against most villains if you get 4bet and they're just too strong for that so flat those hands and add some hands that you don't mind folding to a 4bet. Using SCs to do this does give you a little equity sometimes when villain just flats your 3bet.

I have Been listening to deuceplays podcast back episodes and baluga whale was on with Bart Hanson and was saying that 3betting SCs is wrong bc it takes away implied odds and fold equity if called. Which I had been 3betting SCs before I heard this but am now a little unsure of what hands i should be 3betting light with.

Well I certainly won't argue with baluga whale and I can see where he's coming from. One of the things SCs do give you if called is slightly more actual equity but yes our FE and implied odds are certainly lessened in 3bet pots.

Did he recommend an alternative? Small pairs? Offsuit connectors?

No. Which sucked. He kept saying how some people are 3betting the wrong sorts of hands but never said what where the right type of hands. I'm thinking about starting a new thread on 3betting if I can get my thoughts together.

I like to three bet suited Aces esp A-5ish type hands, I'll also three bet suited connectors and random suited connected cards. I am doing this approx 80% in late position and 20% in middle position as a rough estimate. I usually trying to 3bet players who have high fold to three bet. Even if they call we get to play these hands in position and can take down the pot successfully so much post flop. Simply put, widen your three bet range to include trash (with decent equity) and good hands. This should help you get paid off more. I tend to do most of these things against regs since they have a clue what is going on.

We just ran into the fun part of poker. They don't know your hand, but they can assume things.

I can tell you guys right now that I only 3-bet AA, KK, or AK. I promise.

Ok ok, I lied. I actually only 3-bet 27, 38, and 49. But what's the difference to you? My range percent tells you AA, KK, or AK... You don't know my hand.

A poker genius once said...

We bet for value.
We bet to bluff.
We bet to collect dead money.

Think about it. 3-bets can be as much of the first one as the second or third one. Why are we only doing it for one reason?

Its important to note that when we 3 bet we dont 3 bet hands that could be potentially dominated by the original raiser.

i.e were not 3 betting A10 KG KJ JQ AJ against a tight UTG opener for value, if we get called and hit and ace on the flop are we chuffed to stack off here?

Playing hands like A92345s makes it easier to remember that you did it as a bluff rather than for value when called. Your not stacking with a pair of 5s are we. Suited gives us the outs for a nuts flush draw which is always good when playing As for example.

just food for thought.

If the original raiser doesn't 4 bet often then 3 betting suited connector is good, as hands like 89, 78, play well against KJ AQ and even JJ as they are in no way dominated and can hit good flops. If you miss c betting the dry flops that hit your percieved range is money for old rope.

People tend to play straight forward in 3 bet pots. The money is also inflated and c bets are much harder to call when the next bet threatens your entire stack. There range also lean to be alot of pocket pairs which very rarely hit flops.

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