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  Poker - cash games vs tourneys
 
  #1  
29-01-2008, 1:49 AM
maybull
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cash games vs tourneys

I play freerolls, tourneys or sit & go (single or multi tables), but have never played in a cash game (online or in real life ---other than with friends).

Is it just me or is there more pressure playing cash games? In a tourney, I pay once and then play many hands. In a cash game, I'm paying every time I play.

How long do u usually sit in a game for? When do you leave? Do you play tighter in cash games vs tourneys?

Thanks in advance for any replies!
 

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  #2  
29-01-2008, 2:18 AM
aliengenius
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Actually, there is LESS variance in a cash game, as you are not subject to blind increases.

Here is an article you might find interesting.
  #3  
29-01-2008, 2:50 AM
maybull
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Thanks. I read the article and it makes sense.

It seems the general consensus is that a good tournament player is aggressive. I don't consider myself to be a particularly aggressive player. I don't mind playing a tight game. Oddly, I think that is what helps me when I enter some of the larger tourneys or freerolls. But then again, maybe if I took more risks in the tourneys, I'd place more often (I'd also bust more often, but maybe the overall ROI would be better).

What do you play more often? Do you consider yourself a specialist of either one or do you consider yourself a good player of both cash games and tourneys?
  #4  
29-01-2008, 2:51 AM
Cheetah
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Tight play in cash games has less variance, but looser play can also be profitable. You have to find the style that best suits you.

Here are some of the situations when to leave a cash game:
  • You have more than 10% of your BR on the table
  • You are tired (unless the game is VERY profitable)
  • You are on tilt
  • You suspect you are on tilt
  • You are not playing your A game
  • You lost too much money
  • You have a bad table image due to losses
  • You played tight and you are no longer getting paid off for your good hands
  • Your cat peed on the keyboard
  • etc.
  #5  
29-01-2008, 2:54 AM
Cheetah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maybull View Post
It seems the general consensus is that a good tournament player is aggressive. I don't consider myself to be a particularly aggressive player. I don't mind playing a tight game. Oddly, I think that is what helps me when I enter some of the larger tourneys or freerolls. But then again, maybe if I took more risks in the tourneys, I'd place more often (I'd also bust more often, but maybe the overall ROI would be better).
Tight tournament play works very well against weak opponents. Against better players, a more aggressive approach is needed.
  #6  
29-01-2008, 3:28 AM
maybull
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetah View Post
Tight play in cash games has less variance, but looser play can also be profitable. You have to find the style that best suits you.

Here are some of the situations when to leave a cash game:
  • You have more than 10% of your BR on the table
  • You are tired (unless the game is VERY profitable)
  • You are on tilt
  • You suspect you are on tilt
  • You are not playing your A game
  • You lost too much money
  • You have a bad table image due to losses
  • You played tight and you are no longer getting paid off for your good hands
  • Your cat peed on the keyboard
  • etc.
lol...I'll keep that in mind.

Quote:
Tight tournament play works very well against weak opponents. Against better players, a more aggressive approach is needed.
I guess that's why it makes sense that I play very tight during the beginning of the tourney (but will be very aggressive if I get a kick ass hand) and then switch up my style as the tourney progresses. The fewer tables, the longer I get to play with the same players and can play the player more than the cards sometimes. Also, the aggressive players have either been bumped or are the fat stacks and the crappy players have busted (or will bust soon).

Another quick question I'd love opinions on...
How different are online tourneys compared to live ones?
  #7  
29-01-2008, 5:02 PM
KingPalN
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How Limits

How Limits i must play?
I play my first time cash game and my bankroll is 200$?
thanks for all
  #8  
29-01-2008, 6:39 PM
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If you have $200 I would take $25 or less to a low stakes table for practice. Also playing in low price sattelite tourneys is always fun..
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30-01-2008, 11:29 AM
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I found playing 2 tables, one cash and one tourney is always good, atleast for me. When I enter a tourney, I will normally go play a cash game and 80% of the time I can make my buyin back if not more. If you can sit at a cash game though and just make your buyin back atleast, then thats like playing a free tounrnament every time.
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30-01-2008, 9:16 PM
pokerace3454
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cash game and tourney don't forget sit and gos like them all i play four tables
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30-01-2008, 9:26 PM
StackPowers
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nail on the head

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetah View Post
Tight tournament play works very well against weak opponents. Against better players, a more aggressive approach is needed.
It took me a while to realize the aggressiveness needed late in tourns was bad for me in the beginning.

Also cash games are kind of nice because you have less chasers. Notice I said less. One the blinds dont go up and two people dont want to throw actual money away. Therefore you get a lot of folds before showdown.
  #12  
30-01-2008, 10:56 PM
Egon Towst
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleEyeKing View Post
I found playing 2 tables, one cash and one tourney is always good, atleast for me. When I enter a tourney, I will normally go play a cash game and 80% of the time I can make my buyin back if not more. If you can sit at a cash game though and just make your buyin back atleast, then thats like playing a free tounrnament every time.
I agree, and this is how I built my BR, by using cash games to cover my tourney buyins. As long as your cash game is reasonably solid, you pretty much can`t lose this way, and you just keep grinding on until you hit a Final Table and a big payday.
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