Cash Game Hand Range Analysis...

Ok, this is probably my biggest leak, weakness call it what you will. I really struggle to put my opponents on a range of hands. I need to escape form my level of thinking (looking at my cards and thinking there best all the way to the river!).

I would like to ask you cash game players how you put your villains on a range of hands, what thought processes your using, how you close that range down with each street of betting. It's something I need to get to grips with because at the moment I'm at a winrate of 3.4PTBB/100 over a fairly decent sample, but I would dearly love to achieve around 5PTBB/100.

Maybe we could use this thread to analyse some HH's of each other and sort of coach each other. If this should be posted in the Ring Game analysis, mods please move. Thx.

I put my opponents on hands after theire bet size.

Donks and calling stations I do not put on hands.

Bump

Anyone else?

be more specific withan example please

There are two parts to playing a hand successfully: pinning your opponent on a range of hands, and picking the line that yields the highest positive EV in the long run (metagame included).

The former is one you learn to do with experience, the latter is one that can be taught.

So basically, it's something that comes with experience. You can use PT to actually pin players on rough ranges - ie a 30/20/3 who opens in MP most likely has a range that resembles the top %20 of starting hands, or {66+,A4s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo} according to pokerstove, but that's rough and probably not completely accurate. Like villain might be more inclined to get involved with hands like 97s than A5s for example.

With experience you can narrow your opponents' ranges further based on certain tells, betting patterns, or just feel.

Its tricky to be sure. I'm no expert at it, but the best thing to do is start trying. Guess what people are holding when you are not in a hand. Lots of factors to take into account, player past history, betting patterns, whats on the board, hunches, etc. After a while, you start getting a few, and wow - its magic ;-)

Well that's where his aggression factor and your history with him would really come in handy. Considering just his stats he could have a lot of hands on the flop, but we need to know how aggressively he'll play certain hands in order to really narrow his range down after the ch-raise all in.

Against these types of guys I don't think stacking here is a huge problem, but against smart player's you'd just be giving away too much in implied odds.

Watch the hands that you are not in as well, and try to figure out those hands as well for practice.

I always try to keep an eye on what hands are shown at any time as this will always help to find just what they are playing.

Villian either has a set or something like TT/JJ. But without Aggression factor it is hard to tell. Still gotta call there IMO.

The guy thinks you are stealing from bb. Defends with 8-9s or 9-10s, because it is his favorite. has top pair. puts you on A-Q pushes to keep you out. sucks out the trips on the river How that for a great scenario................

LMFAO, You have to be my villain in this hand coz it's almost a perfect description. If it was you, nice suckout . K9 btw!

My biggest problem is thinking someone is f--king with me, so I can totally relate to this guy. I am a recovering donk however, Only occasionally fall of the wagon. haha

hah. i put him on K9 too.
top pair. 2nd best kicker(figured he'd have a high kicker if he is playin a 9)(and you had the aces, so i figured he didnt have another)

and ofcourse there was probably a reason as to why he made the move.
he had top pair and wanted to take it down.