Cash game- folding middle sets on dangerous boards

#1 25th February 2009, 3:35 AM

The other day this hand came up at .5/1- all three players had about a 100 dollars.

BBXX
MyselfJJ
Guy next to act-XX

I raised, one guy behind called, and BB raised to 3x the original raise. Both I and the other guy called.
Flop- AdKhJh

BB checked, I checked, guy next to act raised, BB shoved all-in, I folded, and other guy called.
BB had KK, other guy had AhQh

The reason I post this is that I felt I made a horrible play by not folding preflop. The BB's small 3x raise (considering 3 people in the pot) was very suspicious, and I would have lost a lot of money if the guy behind me hadn't called, and flopped a monster draw.

#2 25th February 2009, 4:36 PM

Do you use a HUD?

If so,

Preflop

What was his 3-bet range like? What made you suspicious about the size of his bet.. i.e. how would he normally play it?

Lets look at how JJ compares to that 3-bet range using pokerstove

That gives an indication of how well the preflop was played.

Post flop.. well you folded bottom set not middle set.. With two higher sets, a possible straight and a possible flush draw on bottom set dosnt seem worth stacking off for.. middle set maybe.. top set always!!

#3 25th February 2009, 4:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu_Ungar

Do you use a HUD?

Lets look at how JJ compares to that 3-bet range using pokerstove

That gives an indication of how well the preflop was played.

what is pokerstove?

#4 25th February 2009, 4:58 PM

poker stove is a program which allows you to look at the equity of your preflop cards in relation to your opponents range.

i.e. JJ is increadbly strong against a loose player but less strong against a NIT

you can get it wfrom here

http://www.pokerstove.com/

You will want to be using a HUD like pokertracker 3 or Holdem Manager in order to get a more accurate picture of your opponents range.

#5 25th February 2009, 5:52 PM

Don't fold sets.

#6 25th February 2009, 7:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c9h13no3

Don't fold sets.

Can't go wrong with this advice.

You'll lose some, but you'll avoid folding to 2 pair/draws as well.

#7 25th February 2009, 7:06 PM

he might had the low set but the BB had the mid set so it was a good fold also one guy had top pair with a gut shot for the nut straight. you had a good hand the guy with ace queen probably should have fold b4 ya. also preflop BB could've tried to make a play at the pot "squeeze play" so calling it isnt a terrible thing.

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