| This is a discussion on Calling relatively tight players preflop. within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; I struggle calling in position with hands like KJ, QJ J10 etc. Suited connectors and PPs aren't as difficult to play because you normally flop ... |
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| Calling relatively tight players preflop. I struggle calling in position with hands like KJ, QJ J10 etc. Suited connectors and PPs aren't as difficult to play because you normally flop really strong or really weak, but with those other hands it is difficult to play when you hit a pair. should I not be calling these on the button at all? |
| Play Texas Hold'em Online Poker | Calling relatively tight players preflop. | |
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| You should be looking at their position , if they're positionally aware which a lot of tight players of are you can look how much theyre raising by position, to get an idea of how your hand stands against their range. Other things to look for would be how often they c-bet, if theyre only c-betting when they hit then its going to be a lot easier to play against them postflop, just as if they were c-betting too much on the flop and giving up on the turn when they miss. Generally though if you're calling raises from tightish players with KJ you're making a really big mistake, how many hands are you ahead of with KJ that he raises? And then the time you hit the J or K you get crushed when he has AJ or or AK... |
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"positionally aware" does this just mean if they bet less often from EP? That is very basic. "how much they are raising by position" - don't most players use a standard bet of 3-4 BBs? I'd be grateful if you (or someone) can elaborate, thx! |
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cliff note: Most good players will bet between 2.1BB and 2.9 BB thus making the pot and potential Cbet smaller. An example for different ranges by position: Player A ((EP 8/5/3.5, BTN 24/16/3.5)- Overall 18/12/3.5) bets x3BB utg +1 You're BTN holding AcJh UTG+1 raising range could be something like: 99+,AJs+,KQs,AKo Against that range your AJo doesn't look so good: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 66.961% 64.28% 02.68% 56132840 2342335.00 { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AKo } Hand 1: 33.039% 30.36% 02.68% 26509994 2342335.00 { AcJh } If you had taken his whole range (18/12) you'd be flipping: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 51.878% 47.47% 04.41% 107295658 9961471.00 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+ } Hand 1: 48.122% 43.71% 04.41% 98805528 9961471.00 { AcJh } |
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Against a player that is 25/20 but has 8% UTG VPIP, I'm much more inclined to fold dominated hands like KJ KT QJ QT. But if a player is 25/20 and opens 25% in any position, if I have position on him, by all means, I will call with almost any broadway. Not so long ago, I just used to raise or call with the same range per position. That doesn't make sense to me now the same way I always felt ranges itself are pretty restrictive. Some tables and players ask for wide ranges others for tighter ranges. |
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