calculating odds

ok I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, but how do you do it. I've tried doing the times it by 4 thing and divide your outs by the remaining cards but it doesnt work, everytime I check my answer to an online calculator it always says I'm wrong, so what am I doing wrong and what is the right way,

thank you for any help

I was just reading bits of this article earlier today.

http://www.cardschat.com/odds-for-dummies.php

sorry if that was confusing, you know when you see poker on TV they have the percentage of the player winning, how do you figure out that percentage of winning??

hope this helps

The simple way is to count your outs and mulitply it by 2.

Example: your hand...KJ
Board...Q 10 5
you have 8 outs to make a straight. 8x2=16%

Long way is to divide your outs by the number of possible cards left...
8 divided by 47= 0.17 (17%)

That is the percentage of hitting your hand. If you want the percentage of his hand over yours then you are looking at a little more complicated formula.

Could you give us an example of a hand that you end up with the wrong result? If you do that, perhaps we can help you figure out why that is.

I've found the best way is to just simplify it and LEARN it!

In practice, you really don't need to worry about less than 2 outs or more than 9 outs because you'll never have the odds to call with less than 2 and you're pretty safe with more than 9.

The list below came from a website I stumbled across and can't remember where, so I give respect to its author (whoever you are!)

Outs Odds on turn or river
2 23:1
3 15:1
4 11:1
5 8:1
6 7:1
7 6:1
8 5:1
9 4:1

The figures are rounded up or down because you don't need to know these things to three decimal points! It should only take you a few minutes to learn it or you could print it and stick it on your screen.

I think I'll call it "Odds for Dummies" or something like that.

Keep smilin'

Here is a couple reasons TV odds can mess with you.

1)They will sometimes incorporate the odds of a split pot. A5 vs A2 for example. You have him drawing to 3 cards, right? Wrong. You are really drawing to 3 cards to win. Every thing else will more than likely end in a split pot. 4 cards from the board are more than likely going to play. As long as a 3 and 4 both do not appear you will split it.

2)They will reduce odds for dead cards. You have AK vs JJ. It is usually about 50/50 odds. If the show knows that 2 As and a K have been folded because they see everyone's hole cards, they will incorporate them into the odds of winning that hand.

That is just two ways that TV odds can be different than just counting outs. Some times not all your outs are good and you never can calculate split pots in some circumstances.

and subtract outs of cards they know are dead. You hold AK and

I usually dont play the odds.
I go by the player, the flow of the game and hoe hot i am.