C-betting vs checking the flop

#1 2nd August 2009, 11:57 PM

Maybe some of you poker tracker guru's can put some light on this subject for me with some numbers.Like how many times should you c bet % wise when you hit the flop-or if you don't.How many times should you check the flop when you hit the flop-or not.I'm basicly a feel player but it seems over a large sample this should be a good why to go about it say like over 200k hands or way more maybe.

Thanks

#2 3rd August 2009, 7:51 AM

C-betting -- just do it. Most of the time. Whether you hit the flop or not. I think I'm at around 65% overall, but probably a lot higher against one opponent. And I'm successful about half the time -- I think that's profitable no matter what.

#3 3rd August 2009, 9:07 AM

cbetting or not depends primarily on position, number of opponents and board texture. But essentially, cbetting a lot is good. At FR I cbet the flop about 70% of the time, but I know very good regs who cbet up to 80% very profitably.

There's a great video on cbetting in the free section of stoxpoker. This is a must see.

#4 3rd August 2009, 9:25 AM

Check out C9's stickied post in the 'Ring Game Hand Ana' forum. The stickied post is called the literature bomb or somehting. It has 1 video and 1 essay on C-betting that have helped me out!

Also isn't there a thread around about c-betting and pokerrazer? What ever happend to that thread?

#5 3rd August 2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RogueRivered

C-betting -- just do it. Most of the time. Whether you hit the flop or not. I think I'm at around 65% overall, but probably a lot higher against one opponent. And I'm successful about half the time -- I think that's profitable no matter what.

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Don't forget the check raise, that works to....
Don't work most of the time, in 2NL, but C-Betting, seams to work in MTT's, but only on tight players... If you try it on a Loose player = money, or chips lost.

#6 3rd August 2009, 11:56 AM

Tight Players: Should C-bet them a majority of the time. If you get called or reraised and the board is dangerous I would slow down om the turn

Loose Players: Mix play up here. Check raise, smooth call, cbet, keep them on their toes

#7 3rd August 2009, 6:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueRivered

C-betting -- just do it. Most of the time. Whether you hit the flop or not. I think I'm at around 65% overall, but probably a lot higher against one opponent. And I'm successful about half the time -- I think that's profitable no matter what.

If its working 50% of the time then thats fine.

A 1/2 pot c-bet must work 33% of the time
a 3/4 pot c-bet must work 43% of the time.

So if your c-bet success is 50% then you show an auto profit by doing it.

#8 4th August 2009, 1:55 AM

O yeah i left out one of the most important things about this suject that was bothering me.When you riase in postion an someone calls out of postion the flop comes sort of scary for every one like kj4 two suited,you have 4 types of player here.Player 1 check folds to the c bet ,player 2 check raises the c bet, player 3 min or real close to mini bets the flop player 4 bets 3/4 or a full pot size.With player 1 you win obv. player 3 i normaly raise about pot size an win most.But player 2 and 3 is what i have always had trouble with any thoughts on this from anyone.
Thanks

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