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  Poker - Button Raises and Reraises
 
  #1  
26-03-2007, 7:54 AM
titans4ever
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Button Raises and Reraises

It is profitable to steal blinds from the button by raising. Everyone does it but what are your tolerances?

1)Folded to you on the button. You have XX and raise. What do you need to raise here?

2)Folded to the button who puts in a standard 3BB raise. You in the SB have XX. What do need here to reraise?

3)Same as above except in the BB.
 

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26-03-2007, 8:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by titans4ever
It is profitable to steal blinds from the button by raising. Everyone does it but what are your tolerances?

1)Folded to you on the button. You have XX and raise. What do you need to raise here?

2)Folded to the button who puts in a standard 3BB raise. You in the SB have XX. What do need here to reraise?

3)Same as above except in the BB.
we did this thread already.

button raise?
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26-03-2007, 8:59 AM
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Depends. (that's exactly what you wanted to hear right? )
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26-03-2007, 9:02 AM
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That was about is it a good move and is it profitable. I even have an answer in the thread. That thread got me thinking about what cards do I make that move with.

I want to know what your hands are comfortable raising with on the button?
I will start then, I only need two face cards or any A to make the raise. I will even do suited connectors if I know they are more passive players.

What hands will you defend with out of position in the blinds?
I like to reraise with two face cards or A10 or better. I hate calling out of position in the blinds so I will make my move preflop. I will reraise or fold facing a button raise. If I don't hit, it is check fold.

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26-03-2007, 9:05 AM
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This is a completely conditional answer you're asking for. My answer would vary hugely from being on a 100BB stack and a LAG was raising my blind as opposed to being 10BBs short and having a TAG raise me. Tournament situation also comes into play big time here (bubble? early stages?)
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26-03-2007, 9:11 AM
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Mid tournament, average stacked.

I know hands will loosen up if shortstacked or late stages when blinds are huge. They will be a little tighter earlier since there is not enough in the blinds to really want to steal. So lets start in the middle.
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26-03-2007, 10:28 AM
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Mid tournament, average stacked.

I know hands will loosen up if shortstacked or late stages when blinds are huge. They will be a little tighter earlier since there is not enough in the blinds to really want to steal. So lets start in the middle.
you need to wait till antes start, anything earlier isnt worth it.
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26-03-2007, 9:46 PM
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Those are all very good questions Titan. In Sklansky's book "Tournament poker for advanced players", he discusses this very subject introducing the term "Gap concept". Since I'll never be able to explain it as clearly as him it would be a good idea for you to give a look at it, if you haven't already. Essentially, he states that there has to be a "gap" between hands that you would call a raiser with (or reraise the raiser), and hands that you wouldn't call a raiser with, but you would use to raise with in an uncontested pot. The bigger this "gap" is, the more success you'll have in tournament poker. Ex. : you have T9s on the button. Would you call with this hand if a player in MP raises? You might, but more often you won't. But that same hand, if everyone folds to you, is Ok to raise with from the button. Give a look at this book when you can (if you already haven't). GL to you.
 

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