Building back the low stack

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  #1
24th August 2009, 4:22 AM
HipHopStoner
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Building back the low stack

I don't know how but lately I've managed to build my low low stack 500 and under into a decent competing stack. Afterwards though I usually make a bad bluff or catch a bad beat, either way I never last the comeback.

Any ideas what to do after I have gotten a substantial stack to compete with the rest of the table, seeing as I end up losing it all.
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  #2
24th August 2009, 5:17 AM
Fokyernh
 
Plays at: Full tilt
Game: Holdem
Tight is always right..
  #3
24th August 2009, 5:31 AM
RA2000
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: holdem
Watch your bankroll managment and play much tighter and do not bluff so often.
Just about 10%....
  #4
24th August 2009, 6:23 AM
SavagePenguin
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: NLH
re: Building back the low stack poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by HipHopStoner
Any ideas what to do after I have gotten a substantial stack to compete with the rest of the table, seeing as I end up losing it all.
If you were doing the shove-fest thing to get your big stack, people are going to mark you as a wild player and will be looking to call you with lesser hands. So when you do have chips, bluffing is more hazardous as you're more likely to be called.

However without any evidence to the contrary, I'd say that whatever behavior is getting you a short stack to begin with is also knocking you out. I'd guess you're too aggro, but I don't know.

When you're a short stack decisions are easy. You *need* chips so doing the life-or-death plays is fine. When you have a nice sized stack you need substantially better hands to play big pots, because there's no need for the risky behavior.
  #5
24th August 2009, 4:05 PM
Double-A
 
Plays at: bodog
Game: PL Omaha
Quote:
Originally Posted by HipHopStoner
I don't know how but lately I've managed to build my low low stack 500 and under into a decent competing stack. Afterwards though I usually make a bad bluff or catch a bad beat, either way I never last the comeback.

Any ideas what to do after I have gotten a substantial stack to compete with the rest of the table, seeing as I end up losing it all.
I could be reading too much into this but it sounds like you need to work on your post flop play.

When you get short stacked you're probably doing a lot of shoving pre-flop and either picking up the blinds or getting lucky/having the best hand when you are called. After you stack gets healthy again you start making standard raises, getting called, and then having to play a flop.

Poor flop play could also be why you're getting short stacked to begin with.

Also, stop bluffing.
  #6
24th August 2009, 7:09 PM
LuckyChippy
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: Hold'em
Your menatality is wrong to start with. You aren't building back a short stack, you are only playing the stack you have. Maybe you should start there. As for the rest...don't donk it off?
  #7
24th August 2009, 9:12 PM
HipHopStoner
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Thanks for the input guys.. even though some of you are boarderline disrespecting... I'll see if I can't make some changes and see how it goes.
  #8
25th August 2009, 2:16 AM
kidkvno1
 
Plays at: Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
re: Building back the low stack poker

All right, what hands are you playing when you are SS???
If you are playing tight stay that way, IMO you are getting to loose when you have a stack, i have been their and done that...
Stay tight, i can do the same thing, once i was down to 50 chips, i rebuilt my chips and stayed tight, to come out in the top 10.
  #9
27th August 2009, 5:33 PM
Emrald Onyxx
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold'em
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If he can do it...... so can you!
  #10
27th August 2009, 7:27 PM
Daleyboy1234
 
Plays at: pokerstars
Game: Holdem/Omaha
Lmaooooo that picture has amused me. Back on the subject. yeah learn to read your opposition. Post flop play is fundamental to successful play. its what seperate begginers from advanced players and from loss making players from profit making players.

Try Reading the harrington on holdem Books especially volume 2
  #11
27th August 2009, 11:12 PM
scaryjarry
 
Plays at: Bodog
Game: Razz
I'd ttry $1-5 s&g's. plus its lower risk!
  #12
28th August 2009, 12:03 AM
Poker Orifice
 
Plays at: PartyPoker
Game: NLHE
re: Building back the low stack poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by HipHopStoner
I don't know how but lately I've managed to build my low low stack 500 and under into a decent competing stack. Afterwards though I usually make a bad bluff or catch a bad beat, either way I never last the comeback.

Any ideas what to do after I have gotten a substantial stack to compete with the rest of the table, seeing as I end up losing it all.
The title of your thread is a bit misleading.Whether your stack was big.. then small.. then back to average... you're playing the stack you have 'now' in front of you and adjust your play accordingly (and.. if you've gotten a loose table image you'll need to tighten up).

To me your post sounds like.. "how do I play a sng"... in other words..it's kinda non-specific.
  #13
28th August 2009, 12:38 AM
doops
 
Plays at: FullTilt
Game: Limit holdem
Hi Hip Hop -- If you are talking about those times when you are down to the felt in a tourney (of any size), desperately build it back up to a competitive stack (mostly thru luck), and then lose it again before the money... it is frustrating.

For me, the problem is that I have typically been playing either a good deal more loosely than normally to try to get chips, or have been a luckboat for a few hands in a row. Extreme luck has a way of mucking with my head. So, instead of being grateful that I am now back in the game and tightening up, I sometimes push my luck. And suddenly the luck deserts me, sending me to the lowstack again, from which I may not again recover.

It works best to revert to tight play. For one thing, the other players are now sure you are playing loosely (and they are correct.) So you need to not be. That way you can make additional gains because you now are playing with great hands that have a greater possibility of winning-- and people are calling you with lesser hands because they think your range is what it was. Surprise!

Controlling your self and your reactions is what will see you through.
 



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