Bad play with KKs?

#1 31st March 2009, 2:38 AM

Ok. Big MTT.. I was a little below average chips..

Blinds at 30, Villain raises to 200. Hes done this 3x already now.. I call.. Flop is Qxx He raises 480 (pot size).. I reraise all in 1000..

Good play? I was trying to isolate him from an ace on the turn or river..

Cheers

#2 31st March 2009, 2:46 AM

Re raise and try to get it in preflop. Otherwise it's fine.

#3 31st March 2009, 2:48 AM

Well if you have KK suited I'd really like to know where you're playing.

Anywho, I'm not a MTT expert by any means.. but we need more info on villain. Unless you have a really rock solid read on this guy I'm going all-in preflop. If he likes to make continuation bets on the flop then yeah raise all-in on the flop there is fine. Qxx (whate are the other two cards.. suits?) really doesn't tell us much.

#4 31st March 2009, 3:02 AM

lol.. 2 of the cards on the flop were suited. But I wanted a bit of value aswell so didnt shove preflop

#5 31st March 2009, 3:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salami1212

lol.. 2 of the cards on the flop were suited. But I wanted a bit of value aswell so didnt shove preflop

I would of still pushed back preflop - No need to mess around and give them a shot to improve their hand.

But I have been burned too often on the slow play so I am biased. Maybe I am not the best person to listen to...Bitter.

#6 31st March 2009, 3:40 PM

Hi.

I think you play right. But. like spore said, we need more information about Villain (he's tight, average, jackal?).

Bye.
manalva

#7 31st March 2009, 4:11 PM

the blinds are 30..and he raises to 200 oop..unless he's a donk he has a good hand here...now say the flop comes Qxx...i'd put him on QQ or AA or JJ maybe since I have KK.. but even then, its not possible for u to fold after calling 200 pre and being left with 1000...if u are not ready to shove on flop, why did u call preflop , why not just reraise him all in? if he has AA , ul gg

#8 2nd April 2009, 6:07 PM

If this was quite early in the tourney I would have reraised him. Chances are he would fold but you would have picked up 200 chips without the risk of the flop. You let him see the flop and he can hit 2 pair which woud take you out. Do not be frightened to be aggressive. Sure you will lose some but with KK you will win more than you lose.

#9 2nd April 2009, 7:03 PM

i think it was a good strategy,i also re raise when i don't have chance on the flop and when i think that my partner is waiting for something!

#10 2nd April 2009, 7:43 PM

To me it seems good, you play like I do. I do not like giving them chances on the turn to hit a straight or flush, so i bet or reraise. In that situation, when you pushed allin, if he did have a Q he more than likely would've made the call. I think it was a good play and you took down a decent sized pot for early in a tournament. KK is a hard hand to play especially when that ace hits the board.

#11 2nd April 2009, 9:12 PM

lil info leftout but if he was agressisve i would ck raise,and if i put him on queens,i would try to get all my chips in that pot.

#12 2nd April 2009, 9:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFCcantstopme

KK is a hard hand to play especially when that ace hits the board.

KK is easy to play when ace hits the board fold

#13 2nd April 2009, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salami1212

Ok. Big MTT.. I was a little below average chips..

Blinds at 30, Villain raises to 200. Hes done this 3x already now.. I call.. Flop is Qxx He raises 480 (pot size).. I reraise all in 1000..

Good play? I was trying to isolate him from an ace on the turn or river..

Cheers

i think you should re raise all in, i mean you were short stack and if the flop was AXX and your opponent bet, then you will have to fold this incredible hand and your stack will be lower...

#14 3rd April 2009, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis010

i think you should re raise all in, i mean you were short stack and if the flop was AXX and your opponent bet, then you will have to fold this incredible hand and your stack will be lower...

exactly....u cant wait for better spots than this with such less chips

#15 3rd April 2009, 2:20 AM

How many chips are the average?!?
It should have been the right move!
if he has got a queen with top kicker it will be hard to lay down. If he got aces or trip queens he will call you.
But probably he was trying to bluff you!

#16 3rd April 2009, 2:51 AM

What kind of MTT is this? And also, how much did your opponent villain have before this hand?

#17 3rd April 2009, 2:57 AM

Well you won the pot? and didn't give him a chance to hit an ace on the turn or river, so I think you played it pretty well.

Any pot you win is a good pot.

I wouldn't worry about not extracting any more value, as this would perhaps put you in danger of losing a pot you never really should have.

He must have called the extra ~500 chips?

#18 3rd April 2009, 3:04 AM

I played that way with the cowboys and got trippedy trips sixes from the flop, I often shove all in with a raise from a loose aggressive player especially if I am out of position on him.

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