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Poker - anything to of helped
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anything to of helped
Played last night it was 30 min in the tourny very tight players and then this happens...besides not playing the hand what else should I have done here I tried to play conservative I did not want to scream I have the 6...
Full Tilt Poker Game #2971961825: $4,000 Guarantee (22157207), Table 3 - 20/40 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 3:26:05 ET - 2007/07/17 Seat 1: IRISH GM (3,170) Seat 2: zendale (5,250) Seat 3: Jun1nho (3,080) Seat 4: Ebert07 (2,705) Seat 5: Rags007 (3,678) Seat 6: mindfreak001 (3,242) Seat 7: vpsmoker56 (2,745) Seat 8: Dreams_Die_Fast (4,240) Seat 9: johnpaul1 (3,250) Jun1nho posts the small blind of 20 Ebert07 posts the big blind of 40 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to zendale [6c 2c] Rags007 folds mindfreak001 folds vpsmoker56 folds Dreams_Die_Fast folds johnpaul1 calls 40 IRISH GM folds zendale calls 40 Jun1nho calls 20 Ebert07 checks *** FLOP *** [6h 6s 3d] Jun1nho checks Ebert07 checks johnpaul1 has 15 seconds left to act johnpaul1 bets 40 zendale has 15 seconds left to act zendale calls 40 Jun1nho calls 40 Ebert07 folds *** TURN *** [6h 6s 3d] 3♥ Jun1nho has 15 seconds left to act Jun1nho checks johnpaul1 checks zendale bets 140 Jun1nho calls 140 johnpaul1 folds *** RIVER *** [6h 6s 3d 3h] A♣ Jun1nho has 15 seconds left to act Jun1nho bets 400 zendale raises to 1,760 Jun1nho raises to 2,860, and is all in zendale calls 1,100 *** SHOW DOWN *** Jun1nho shows [3s 3c] four of a kind, Threes zendale shows [6c 2c] a full house, Sixes full of Threes Jun1nho wins the pot (6,280) with four of a kind, Threes *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 6,280 | Rake 0 Board: [6h 6s 3d 3h Ac] Seat 1: IRISH GM didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: zendale (button) showed [6c 2c] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Threes Seat 3: Jun1nho (small blind) showed [3s 3c] and won (6,280) with four of a kind, Threes Seat 4: Ebert07 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 5: Rags007 didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: mindfreak001 didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: vpsmoker56 didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: Dreams_Die_Fast didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: johnpaul1 folded on the Turn |
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Now I get back going things are looking better down to 68 players and this devstation...
Full Tilt Poker Game #2972256216: $4,000 Guarantee (22157207), Table 3 - 80/160 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 4:30:46 ET - 2007/07/17 Seat 1: Big Huni (4,497) Seat 2: zendale (4,744) Seat 3: Jun1nho (7,420) Seat 4: Jeffboski (13,538) Seat 5: Rags007 (9,056) Seat 6: peterpusy (3,525) Seat 7: vpsmoker56 (5,050) Seat 8: Dreams_Die_Fast (5,025) Seat 9: dome1117 (1,305) Big Huni posts the small blind of 80 zendale posts the big blind of 160 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to zendale [Kd Ac] Jun1nho folds Jeffboski folds Rags007 has 15 seconds left to act Rags007 calls 160 peterpusy calls 160 vpsmoker56 folds Dreams_Die_Fast calls 160 dome1117 folds Big Huni calls 80 zendale raises to 960 Rags007 has 15 seconds left to act Rags007 folds peterpusy calls 800 Dreams_Die_Fast folds Big Huni folds *** FLOP *** [2h 5s 6s] zendale bets 2,400 peterpusy raises to 2,565, and is all in zendale calls 165 peterpusy shows [4s Js] zendale shows [Kd Ac] *** TURN *** [2h 5s 6s] 9♠ *** RIVER *** [2h 5s 6s 9s] [Td] peterpusy shows a flush, Jack high zendale shows Ace King high peterpusy wins the pot (7,530) with a flush, Jack high Jun1nho stands up *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 7,530 | Rake 0 Board: [2h 5s 6s 9s Td] Seat 1: Big Huni (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 2: zendale (big blind) showed [Kd Ac] and lost with Ace King high Seat 3: Jun1nho didn't bet (folded) Seat 4: Jeffboski didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: Rags007 folded before the Flop Seat 6: peterpusy showed [4s Js] and won (7,530) with a flush, Jack high Seat 7: vpsmoker56 didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: Dreams_Die_Fast folded before the Flop Seat 9: dome1117 (button) didn't bet (folded) |
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You are right about the first one, why bother. You wasted alot of money on a flop that you thought was gold and turned out crap. I have been reviewing sessions and seeing that the hands I should not have even been in are the most costly and rarely pan out.
The second one.... I think you should have just done a standard raise of 3BB+1BB per limper (160x4= 640). This is a smaller amount of your chips and will accomplish the same thing. That raise would allow you to bet around 700 after the flop to see if you could get him to fold. You opponent was shortstacked and would have to fold or go all-in to any bet after the flop. That is what you are wanting anyways so why put him all-in when you did not hit. He calls the smaller raise and you could check/fold and still have 3k left which is over 10 BB and not make yourself shortstacked yet. You did not leave yourself any wiggle room in this hand. This is a good example of realizing what your preflop bet amount can do to your post flop play. Your slightly oversized preflop raise just got you in trouble after the flop. Smaller bets here pre and post flop would have accomplished the same thing in the end with less risk. As far as you opponent. I know it was a donkey hand that called the preflop raise, but he has open ended striaght draw, flush draw and one over. He has 18 outs against you. What a miracle flop, he has a 60% chance to improve in the next 2 cards. Last edited by titans4ever : 17-07-2007 at 4:48 PM. |
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First Hand Was Just Sick Dude, Never Get Used To Them :/ The Second Hand, Man Wat A Donkey, Did He Play Like That All Tourny? If So A Dont Really Like The Play After The Flop, You May Want To Be A Little Tighter Against Such Unpredictable, Well, Donkeys
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I dont understand why you call the man donkey with str8 draw & flush draw on the flop that was gutsy play the only donkey here bet 2400 with nothing. (no offence Zendale) donkey was not my word.
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Why He's A Donkey
You Really Need More Information To Judge But If He Is Consistently Making Those Plays And Chasing His Draws Then He's Not Making Profitable Plays. Also Calling A Preflop Raise With J4S Shows The Amatuer Play Of Being Unwilling To Fold Any Two Suited Cards. It's More These Factors Than The One Of Call After The Flop With The Draws Which Make Him A Donkey. Although I Agree That It Was Quite A Poor Play To Bet With The AK After Missing.
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