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  Poker - Anyone else a big fan of 1/2 pot bets?
 
  #1  
28-04-2008, 10:08 PM
Bentheman87
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Anyone else a big fan of 1/2 pot bets?

This seems to me to be the perfect amount to bet. I often see players bluffing with a pot sized bet then folding to a reraise. Or betting pot with tptk on a drawless board. In either case, IMO, one half pot bet is the best. The only exception is if you are very deep stacked, with a good hand and there are draws on board, then a 1/2 pot bet won't give your opponent the correct expressed odds but will give him the right implied odds.
 

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  #2  
28-04-2008, 10:31 PM
dj11
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If in a tourney;
Early it's usually too small, and late it can be too big.
But overall it feels just right.
  #3  
28-04-2008, 11:28 PM
imsosorry
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yeah, but not all the time, sometimes a bigger bet is better
  #4  
29-04-2008, 12:36 AM
reglardave
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1/2 the pot is a good strategic move in many situations. I like that it's easily available at FT and Ultimatebet, makes it even more attractive.

BTW, I believe that's why you see so much min. raising online. It's right there, quick and easy......
  #5  
29-04-2008, 4:05 AM
zachvac
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I prefer the 2/3 to 3/4 pot bet but of course it depends what you're trying to accomplish. Just so you know a 1/2 pot bet gives the opponent 3 to 1 to draw and on the flop with a flush draw that certainly seems like it gives implied odds to draw.
  #6  
29-04-2008, 4:06 AM
zachvac
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oh sorry didn't realize you said exactly that in your OP lol.
  #7  
01-05-2008, 1:45 AM
The Ruatorian
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A certain bet is correct in certain situations. A like the mention about giving pot odds to the flush
  #8  
02-05-2008, 10:46 PM
SavagePenguin
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Ring games or tournaments?

I tend to be half-pot in tournaments. I used to do it in ring games, but when I switched to 2/3 pot bets my win rate went up substantially.
  #9  
02-05-2008, 11:48 PM
AlexeiVronsky
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In tourneys I like the half pot bet on pretty static flops, if there's any reasonable kinds of draws I tend to bump it up to 2/3 at least, or if it's draw heavy a full pot bet. I also like it after a 2/3 flop bet, the 1/2 pot on the turn seems to work pretty well especially against people who like to float the flop. At least you tend to find out where they stand without paying too much.
  #10  
03-05-2008, 4:09 AM
c9h13no3
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Since I generally keep my c-bet the same, I stick with 70%. 1/2 pot just doesn't have enough fold equity, or get money in the pot fast when I have a big hand. While there's certainly time for 1/2 pot bets, its certainly not my standard.
  #11  
03-05-2008, 7:37 PM
icecold24k
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I usually stick to the 1/2 pot bet myself. That is an area of my game i am currently struggling at also. I really am usually not sure how much to be into a pot so 1/2 pot seems right for me.
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03-05-2008, 9:42 PM
feitr
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Depends on what you are tryign to accomplish and vs who you are betting. 1/2 pot has very little fold equity so if you are just trying a c-bet and have no intention of firing a 2nd shot on the turn then a 1/2 pot bet probably isn't ideal (unless you know for sure they'll fold to 1/2 pot if they miss).

Also give odds to draw to a flush/OESD, but tbh even if you bet 2/3 pot somebody is still going to call (or raise) with a flushdraw on the flop.

Depends on gametype as well...ie. early in tourn 1/2 pot isn't enough to get anybody off a hand, but late in a tourn <1/2 pot can be more than enough to get somebody off a hand, in HU it is opponent specific, and cash you normally need more than 1/2 a pot because stacks are deep so implied odds are higher/very hard to get pot committed unlike in a tourn.
  #13  
04-05-2008, 12:21 AM
MR TOYMAKER
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Half pot and 2/3 pot bets are normal for me but in some case I try to mix up depending on the table. It all depends on how deep my stack is and how the table is playing. I lower bets when I get no action when I want some.
  #14  
05-05-2008, 6:18 PM
Numenor80
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I try to stick to the pot bet, but depends on the players and action at the table.
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06-05-2008, 8:55 PM
acciuno
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After reading this I have incorporated a handful of times and have found some success. But then again it's only been a little over a week.
  #16  
06-05-2008, 9:44 PM
sliver101
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usually between a half and three quarters tho this can be alcohol influenced lol
  #17  
08-05-2008, 8:10 PM
Archinutz
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To accomplish what...?

I know the question has been asked and there are many situations and type of players at the table. Personally and the majority of the time I use the 1/2 pot bet to either induce a bluff when i'm fairly sure i'm ahead against an aggressive player(s) and/or tight player. Also when i'm in a semi bluff situation. If i'm in early position, IMO 1/2 pot bet works best. Of course 90% of my poker time is in tournies so i'm unclear how effective it would be in cash games. later sages in tournies, 3/4 to pot raises are usually sufficient to achieve my objective at that particular time. I'm just curious if its similar to low ball betting?
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