Any Omaha Players Here?

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  #1
23rd July 2009, 1:15 AM
smkozlowski
 
Plays at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Any Omaha Players Here?

I have been playing for quite a while at Pokerstars and usually playing Hold'em, but I have been playing Omaha Hi/Lo and have cashed. Interesting game and with Hi/lo, many ways to win at least 1/2 the pot. There is much less All-in crap pre-flop, like there is in Hold'em, which is nice. You see more flops and can take advantage of position a bit more. Tomorrow, the first table I visit at Pokerstars is the $3.75 18-player Sit-n-go. Comments appreciated.
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  #2
23rd July 2009, 1:27 AM
DrOnePocket
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Omaha
Quote:
Originally Posted by smkozlowski
I have been playing for quite a while at Pokerstars and usually playing Hold'em, but I have been playing Omaha Hi/Lo and have cashed. Interesting game and with Hi/lo, many ways to win at least 1/2 the pot. There is much less All-in crap pre-flop, like there is in Hold'em, which is nice. You see more flops and can take advantage of position a bit more. Tomorrow, the first table I visit at Pokerstars is the $3.75 18-player Sit-n-go. Comments appreciated.
I have been playing Omaha Hi/Lo for about 10 years. Not much of a Hold em player.

The best advice I ever got playing Hi/Lo was to never bet the nut low. Even heads up, NEVER bet the low!!!!!!!!!

Here is why....

The absolute best you can hope for when betting the low is half of your money back. When playing 6-9 handed it is very likely that you are not the only one with the nut low and even if you are, you will only get half of your money back.

Here is a scenario that happens alot when playing 8/b games. You and one other person both have Ace 2 which is currently the best low on the flop. You get into a betting war, and the other guy hits a redraw for low, you get counterfeited, and/or he will hit the high on you as well and you get quartered. Quartered means you get 25% of your money back.

Remember this.... In all forms of Omaha including high/Low, there is a HIGH every hand. There is a low less than half of the time. Knowing this, choose your hands accordingly

Good Luck
  #3
23rd July 2009, 1:31 AM
spunka
 
Plays at: Merge
Game: Just Deal
Hi I play Omaha a bit, mostly for fun (small stakes 5 -10$) tournaments.
I like it very much I prefeer the HI game thou, but play both, It had the great advantage that you learn to read the cards at the boards very well, because it's a bit tricky sometimes that you have to use 2 of your 4 cards.

Also it's a relaxing from the hold em game, I find it a bit more complex and it is as you have noticed a post flop game mostly.

the thing about the HI/LOW game is that sometimes you only win 25% of the pot, as it's often a low split. So when playing that one have to be very carefull.

(as Omaha normaly is played as a limit game there isn't often All ins pre flop.)

anyway I think it's for your "poker" brain to try and play the different games, so good luck in your new venture :-)
  #4
24th July 2009, 5:10 AM
Tygran
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: NLH
re: Any Omaha Players Here? poker

I've been playing omaha almost exclusively for a couple months, but only omaha/hi...

hi/lo makes me want to murder things
  #5
24th July 2009, 6:05 AM
damon789
 
Plays at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Hilo WHOOOOOAA!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tygran
I've been playing omaha almost exclusively for a couple months, but only omaha/hi...

hi/lo makes me want to murder things
Lol agreed can be a very frustrating game. Even tho I play rarely, I can to say

starting hands in Hilo are extremely important, as with most poker

variations.Good running combos are always worth a bet AKQJ double suited,

and hands you can make a nut low and nut high like A23K double suited.

because you are against so many possible combos, if a low is possible playing

starters that can scoop are definately the way to longterm profits. Def

frustrating tho when some players just refuse to fold a nutlow draw, when its

their only win, and they always seems to spike it on the Riv ugggggg.

Last edited by damon789 : 24th July 2009 at 6:26 AM.
  #6
24th July 2009, 6:20 AM
LizzyJ
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NLHE and PLO
I love PLO. I only picked up the game about a month or two ago and for some strange reason I'm more comfortable with Omaha than Hold'em
  #7
24th July 2009, 6:34 AM
Songtime
 
Plays at: FullTilt
Game: holdem
Omaha hi/lo

I enjoy both Omaha hi and hi/lo. I would have to disagree with the first responder in that betting the low when you flop it, is much different than chasing the low post flop. Your percentages in making a low when it isn't flopped make chasing a losing proposition. Therefore my advice would be: don't chase the low.
  #8
24th July 2009, 8:58 AM
DrOnePocket
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Omaha
re: Any Omaha Players Here? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Songtime
I enjoy both Omaha hi and hi/lo. I would have to disagree with the first responder in that betting the low when you flop it, is much different than chasing the low post flop. Your percentages in making a low when it isn't flopped make chasing a losing proposition. Therefore my advice would be: don't chase the low.
After a few more years of play you will learn. This is the most common mistake made by average players
  #9
25th July 2009, 2:14 AM
LizzyJ
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NLHE and PLO
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrOnePocket

The absolute best you can hope for when betting the low is half of your money back. When playing 6-9 handed it is very likely that you are not the only one with the nut low and even if you are, you will only get half of your money back.

Good Luck
Sometimes not even that, I'm sure you've been quartered before. No worse feeling that split half the low pot. Most times you don't even get your money back.

do you think PLO8 can be more profitable than PLO or NLHE? Lots of players don't really understand the complexity of the game.
  #10
25th July 2009, 9:26 PM
DrOnePocket
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Omaha
Quote:
Originally Posted by LizzyJ
Sometimes not even that, I'm sure you've been quartered before. No worse feeling that split half the low pot. Most times you don't even get your money back.

do you think PLO8 can be more profitable than PLO or NLHE? Lots of players don't really understand the complexity of the game.
Yes, I have been quartered MANY times, and that is a big reason why i will never bet the low. In fact there are times in this game where folding the nut low will make you alot of money.

It can be profitable if played correctly. I always choose hands that can win my the high pot. Winning both pots is ideal, and those type hands are the best. Alot of people play for the low more than the high and that will cost you a fortune over time. Remember.... EVERY hand has a High. Some hands have a low.
  #11
26th July 2009, 7:27 PM
Tbirdbully
 
I agree, dont bet/chase the low. although I like omaha hi better =)
  #12
26th July 2009, 7:45 PM
Tom1559
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
re: Any Omaha Players Here? poker

I only got into it recently but I have found it to be a great game. I prefer limit because I think it gives the skill more chance to come through.
  #13
27th July 2009, 5:36 PM
nobby1510
 
I love omaha - and yes the biggest lesson i learned is not to get too excited with A2! You learn the hard way about quartering!! A2 is great in freerolls or low stakes where you may take advantage of new players but at higher level you have to take advantage of the big hi hands.
 



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