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4th June 2007, 11:38 PM
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Another reason not to limp UTG with AA
Full Tilt Poker Game #2583421870: Super Satellite to $1K Monday (19243365), Table 4 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:34:33 ET - 2007/06/04
jayneseo: lol Seat 1: sangenjaya (2,592) Seat 2: Silent Asazin (750) Seat 3: jayneseo (4,825) Seat 4: bnapa (4,180) Seat 5: lleall (2,684) Seat 6: tooturney (3,860) Seat 8: NH_4Me2PoopOn (4,995) Seat 9: splashthaap0t (2,095) sangenjaya antes 25 Silent Asazin antes 25 jayneseo antes 25 bnapa antes 25 lleall antes 25 tooturney antes 25 NH_4Me2PoopOn antes 25 splashthaap0t antes 25 jayneseo posts the small blind of 120 bnapa posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to jayneseo [9h Td] lleall calls 240 tooturney folds NH_4Me2PoopOn folds splashthaap0t folds sangenjaya folds Silent Asazin folds jayneseo calls 120 bnapa checks *** FLOP *** [Qs Jh Kd] jayneseo bets 920 bnapa folds lleall raises to 2,419, and is all in jayneseo calls 1,499 lleall shows [Ah As] jayneseo shows [9h Td] layingdatrap sits down layingdatrap adds 2,880 *** TURN *** [Qs Jh Kd] 8♦ *** RIVER *** [Qs Jh Kd 8d] 2♥ lleall shows a pair of Aces jayneseo shows a straight, King high jayneseo wins the pot (5,758) with a straight, King high lleall stands up *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5,758 | Rake 0 Board: [Qs Jh Kd 8d 2h] Seat 1: sangenjaya folded before the Flop Seat 2: Silent Asazin (button) folded before the Flop Seat 3: jayneseo (small blind) showed [9h Td] and won (5,758) with a straight, King high Seat 4: bnapa (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 5: lleall showed [Ah As] and lost with a pair of Aces Seat 6: tooturney folded before the Flop Seat 8: NH_4Me2PoopOn folded before the Flop Seat 9: splashthaap0t folded before the Flop |
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#2
5th June 2007, 1:22 AM
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#3
5th June 2007, 4:37 AM
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Limping AA UTG is a very read dependent play. On an aggressive table or with very aggressive players in late position it's a nice idea.
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#4
5th June 2007, 4:55 AM
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So I guess Dan Harrington is an idiot for recommending limping with it UTG 20% of the time. As Schatz pointed out, there's nothing inherently wrong with it, at all. It can be risky, as shown, but can also pay huge dividends. Pretty unlucky sequence of events for the guy (no raise, horrible flop), if you think about it.
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5th June 2007, 7:35 AM
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re: Another reason not to limp UTG with AA poker
Don't remember calling anyone an idiot..... How about this, if you limp UTG with AA beware of connected flops and big bets?
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5th June 2007, 8:18 AM
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Yeah I think the principle is more general, like "when limping Aces UTG be wary of playing in an unraised pot." Obviously you give the later position guys a shot at limping with marginals and they could hit anything or pick up great draws. Also the BB gets a freeroll and he could have any two. Reads will help you out here as your now in the dark essentially.
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5th June 2007, 8:20 AM
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Saw a post somewhere about this. Limping with high pairs from early position supposed to be one of the "new" tactics used. In line with the "UTG is the new Button" style play that actually seems to work on TAG tables.
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#8
5th June 2007, 8:28 AM
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most cant and will go broke there, for the players that can not fold it raise it preflop every single time and never limp it. the reason to limp them is so that someone behind you raises and you can re-raise. If that dosent happen though most of the time they go in the muck because now you are playing most likely OOP against random hands and have no idea what you are up against. |
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5th June 2007, 8:35 AM
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True, stormsva. But if you are quite comfortable folding whatever hand if the flop or the play doesnt fit your reads and expectations, it is handy. And yes again, the limping is most often a tool to get aggressive types to commit to the pot making it a tool for maximizing profit rather than your standard play tool.
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5th June 2007, 5:44 PM
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re: Another reason not to limp UTG with AA poker
u limp with ace a bad flop like that comes y lose all your money just muck them your tring to get in preflop not on a bord like that just take the loss off the blinds and move on aces are not that great
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