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  Poker - 6 Max or Full Ring...
 
  #1  
07-02-2008, 12:12 PM
Jagsti
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6 Max or Full Ring...

Which do play and why?

I have only ever played 6 max, I'm not even sure why I started 6 max as opposed to FR, but I like the constant involvement you have in 6 max.

I would imagine the play in 6 max is more aggro than at FR. But am I missing something regarding FR. Is it strategically different? What are the pros and cons of either discipline?
 

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  #2  
07-02-2008, 2:23 PM
Stan7777
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Why?

I'll never understand why anyone would want to pay blinds more often in a ring game. This makes no sense to me. If your a tight player and play premium hands you gotta sit at a 9-10 seat table only IMHO.
If your loose and agressive perhaps a 6 max has a little extra value for that style of play. But I'd argue it's marginal versuses the rake over time because there are fewer multiway pots. Not good for the mid suited connectors crowd.
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07-02-2008, 2:45 PM
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The difference between the two isn't quite as drastic as the difference between Limit and No Limit but it's definitely a different game overall. On a 6 max table your odds take a major shift and your starting hands requirements must accordingly shift. The major problem with this is that you will find yourself going up against stronger on a more regular basis and because of previous investments and/or your belief that your opponent is bluffing or semi-bluffing you will find it much harder to get off of a hand.

There's more that goes into it besides what Stan and I have pointed out, but for my money I'd have to say that's enough reasoning to steer clear. If you are already playing it and if its has been your primary game for most or all of your poker life you will probably have some issues coming off of that mindset when you play FR because you are probably well suited to playing a wide variety of hands. GL either way.
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07-02-2008, 6:22 PM
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6Max = LAG players sex
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07-02-2008, 11:56 PM
Jagsti
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Originally Posted by Stan7777 View Post
I'll never understand why anyone would want to pay blinds more often in a ring game. This makes no sense to me. If your a tight player and play premium hands you gotta sit at a 9-10 seat table only IMHO.
If your loose and agressive perhaps a 6 max has a little extra value for that style of play. But I'd argue it's marginal versuses the rake over time because there are fewer multiway pots. Not good for the mid suited connectors crowd.
I understand you point on the blinds being more frequent, but it seem's to me that there are a lot of loose players at 6max to make up for this.

Also your seeing a lot more hands, therefore you have a lot more opportunities to profit.
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08-02-2008, 12:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan7777 View Post
I'll never understand why anyone would want to pay blinds more often in a ring game. This makes no sense to me. If your a tight player and play premium hands you gotta sit at a 9-10 seat table only IMHO.
If your loose and agressive perhaps a 6 max has a little extra value for that style of play. But I'd argue it's marginal versuses the rake over time because there are fewer multiway pots. Not good for the mid suited connectors crowd.
this makes zero sense. yes, you're paying the blinds 50% more often but you're also playing hands at least 50% more often. if you're a winning player, last i checked, you made money by playing hands (better than other players play their hands). therefore.....
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08-02-2008, 12:17 AM
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Pretty simple - 6-max is slightly more of a game of steals and resteals than FR which is a game of implied odds and nutmining. They really don't vary that much, but those are the main differences as far as I'm concerned.

I'm currently playing full ring because my main focus is making money rather than improving my game at the moment. Not that it's more profitable, but it's easier, to put it simply. Fewer marginal situations.

Once I'm financially stable I'll probably take a few shots at 6-max and see how it works out.
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08-02-2008, 12:25 AM
Jagsti
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Pretty simple - 6-max is slightly more of a game of steals and resteals than FR which is a game of implied odds and nutmining. They really don't vary that much, but those are the main differences as far as I'm concerned.

I'm currently playing full ring because my main focus is making money rather than improving my game at the moment. Not that it's more profitable, but it's easier, to put it simply. Fewer marginal situations.

Once I'm financially stable I'll probably take a few shots at 6-max and see how it works out.
Chuck, I have read elsewhere that for FR, winrate is reduced somewhat as it tends to be populated with nitty type players compared to 6max, your thoughts?
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08-02-2008, 12:27 AM
combuboom
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a good 6max player's winrate at 6max will basically always be higher than an "equally good" (not sure how you really measure that across two different things, but you get the point) FR player's winrate at FR. but a good FR player might not be as good a 6max player and vice versa

like chuck said, FR is easier. it's less stressful and i can autopilot it a lot more so i like to play FR at times
  #10  
08-02-2008, 12:28 AM
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Probably true. I couldn't really go too much in depth on that though because I'm not sure about what types of winrates are sustainable at 6-max. I can tell you though that even at 50nl the nits start populating the tables a lot more.
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01-06-2008, 2:25 AM
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6 max kills fullring enjoyment wise, i think alot more badplayers aswell im there more fpp more hands can't beat it
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01-06-2008, 4:56 AM
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I only played 6-max up until a few weeks ago.
I sorta wish I played FR earlier,

Now that I'm playing FR... man... it's a whole lot easier. But it's also a *lot* slower therefor tends to be quite a bit more boring. You can make up for this some by adding more tables. But compared to 6-max, in FR you're just playing in auto-pilot. The blinds come around less so you're less desperate to make moves, so each hand matters less.

I've been playing the FR's pretty much how I play my 6-max games, opening with most pocket pairs and such from any position, but in 6-max I'd open with A/T UTG but wouldn't do that in FR. A/J maybe... and definitely if it was suited.

I'm glad I cut my teeth on 6-max though. You're in more pots against, in a smaller field, with more aggressive people, so you're involved in hands with the same villain over and over again. That makes it easier (or at least, necessary if not easier) to figure out their game/weaknesses.
  #13  
01-06-2008, 7:57 AM
Dayne G.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jagsti View Post
Which do play and why?

I have only ever played 6 max, I'm not even sure why I started 6 max as opposed to FR, but I like the constant involvement you have in 6 max.

I would imagine the play in 6 max is more aggro than at FR. But am I missing something regarding FR. Is it strategically different? What are the pros and cons of either discipline?
Varience goes way up 6 max!

More importantly, your "mental pain tolerance" must be much higher 6 max. Your emotions are definitely tested more often 6 max, because decisions are more marginal!

6 max will make to MENTALLY TOUGHER, BY FAR... NO COMPARISON!

Good luck,
Dayne
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