first to drop 100BI below or above EV wins

Originally Posted by baudib1

fold or flat flop

I thought there were so many good turn cards to barrel if he did call the raise it was worth it. The only real hand combo that has me crushed is AAxxhh as any other FD is played more passively (calling the raise).

what about flatting and raising a double on good turns or betting when checked to and firing alot of rivers?

I didn't realize you hit your pivot card, I don't really mind raising in that case.

Anyone ever fold top set after the flop?
I was wondering if say I have 9h9cAcKh and the flop is 9s5d4d with heavy multi way action with at least 2 other players all in before the action is too you. Likely going against a flush draw and str8 draw and who knows if there a higher set draw.....do you think folding is okay here given here if the bet is heavy before it gets to you?

With 2 players stacking off you probably have to get it in, if you had flopped the nut straight with no redraw it is correct to fold on the flop with 2-3 all-ins.

How about 9h9cAhKc on a 9s8d7d board ? Here we are behind but have a full house draw better than the flush and higher straight draw and board will pair 1/3 on the time so it's better to call two players who stack off and fold if it was just one player stacking off?

donkbet vs c/r......I have been c-betting HU after the flop. If works well most times and if i get floated on and miss i will give up at the turn or river. but I have been playing with extreme aggro players who have 3bet me on the flop....forcing me to fold a decent draw on the flop.
adjustment I have been making toward the extreme agrro player is to play a lot less hands. wait for a good hand....ds connecting card with high pair.......and c/r cause i know this player c-bet almost 100% of the time.

Hi, guys. I wonder how you deal with following standard situation:
say its raised pot, 3 people in. On flop early position guy leads up pot size bet, initial raiser folds and you with your straight or flush draw call as well. On turn flush comes, early position checks. You know like 80% of time early position has a set and he is a calling station no matter how much you bet he will call. You bet pot size. He calls. On river board pairs up and he leads up for 2/3 of the pot. So how often would you call this bet ?
p.s. no need to get into pre or flop play, I'm interested in specifically turn and river.

board pairs up at the river, I suspect he has a set before....I fold 100% on a 2/3 pot bet.
If I get c/r on the river I fold 100% on the same board.
If he checks I bet 1/4-1/2 pot....two pairs might call .......most overfull and underfull will raise in my experience

caveat ...if you been playing with this player and hes an agro post flop player and makes a bet 100% on the time at the river then I might call as i played with players that just have pair and bluff.

Internet broke ~ a week ago. Hopefully back to PLO tomorrow

Merge - $0.04 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $10.74
SB: $5.06
BB: $1.89
UTG: $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has Ks Ts 9s Kc

UTG calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.18, SB calls $0.16, fold, UTG calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.58, 3 players) 2s As 9c
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.51, fold, UTG raises to $2.11, fold

UTG wins $1.52

Should I c-bet this or check behind and maybe get flush-over-flush for a bit of value. Too much SDV to bet/fold? ... or do we not have a lot of value here when he raises?

Villian is 53/14/2 over 150 hands.

I c-bet this no reason...just my style....53/2....does this mean loose passive?

Fresh (as in minutes) off a 10x bi session, which was accomplished via relentless limping at a 6 max table. I want to see as many flops as I can as cheaply as I can, thus the relentless limping.

Some decent cards but a whole lot of HE fools who think a big pair is worth stacking themselves.

Best PLO rungood session of the year.

Cake.... .02/.04 buy in is Max 4.00 but since some box is checked I bought in for 1.20. Walked with 12.4x.

Sweetness.

what u gon spend that cash on?

Originally Posted by vanquish

what u gon spend that cash on?

more

ldo......

Buy in for minimum and limp every hand....right.

Originally Posted by jbbb

Buy in for minimum and limp every hand....right.

It works more often than I expected.

And FYI, not quite every hand, but by anyone's standards it is a loose style, and requires at least some post flop discipline.

Originally Posted by dj11

Fresh (as in minutes) off a 10x bi session, which was accomplished via relentless limping at a 6 max table. I want to see as many flops as I can as cheaply as I can, thus the relentless limping.

Some decent cards but a whole lot of HE fools who think a big pair is worth stacking themselves.

Best PLO rungood session of the year.

Cake.... .02/.04 buy in is Max 4.00 but since some box is checked I bought in for 1.20. Walked with 12.4x.

Sweetness.

Sounds like a heater but will try for fun soon and report...

Agree it could be a heater, 85% vpip is seldom profitable (in HE anyway). But then I don't look for the same table many of you do. I look for the tables with the lower avg pot size, pretty much knowing it will be a limpy table, perhaps full of HE converts and I like my post flop PLO game. Seems many of you stress wanting to get in on those tables with the bigger avg pot, and I assume u r thinking there are a lot of loose gooses there and you can play a tight game and succeed.

So far so good

dude just fully solved plo;
in b4 coaching career starts.

Originally Posted by taaron

dude just fully solved plo;
in b4 coaching career starts.

You pay me BIG, no HUGE, coaching fees and I will teach you my solution to micro plo.

Why not cut out the 40% of hands that have little flop % equity and save 40BB/100?

So far today, playing much much tighter

-2bi

lets get this going again

Who all out there is grinding plo right now?

BR: 380
limit: 10plo

goal: 10k hands this month

not many hands , but hoping just to get an overall grasp of the game


gogogogogo

embrace the variance

I am a PLOer. Took some hits to the confidence so just playing deep PLO5 at the moment. Will jump back up to PLO25 soon.

I think there is so much variance in PLO that there almost is no variance. hmmmm.

Originally Posted by xdeuceswild81xx

lets get this going again

Who all out there is grinding plo right now?

BR: 380
limit: 10plo

goal: 10k hands this month

not many hands , but hoping just to get an overall grasp of the game


gogogogogo

Play 5plo with $380 imo.

Originally Posted by tenbob

Play 5plo with $380 imo.

I think it depends on your playing style. 40BI is probably ok for 10PLO because the villains aren't that great (won't put you in high variance spots). I think playing with 80BI at 5PLOi s a bit of an overkill, especially when your only really getting it in with the nuts or with a strong 40% draw most of the time.
FWIW i'm gonna shot 10PLO when I hit $300 for about 3BI and then hopefully move up properly on about 350-400$.

Have look on my blog for my last few thousand hands of 10plo. Running like crap for the second half, and running like god for the first half. From what i can see 30BI swings should be commplace even at teh micros.

Well I'm getting 55% rb, so 2 bis of RB every 1k hands. Maybe that is enough of a cushion against some crazy variance?


BR: 430

Plan on moving down at 300 if/when it comes to that

in

Playing a few thousand a hands a month micro limits to learn this game. Will post some hands.

BR: $46

My goal is to keep taking profits off the 4PLO tables and keep winning the small MTTs. I am currently playing .02/.04PLO only and up to $1 MTTs. I can't wait until I have enough to play the PLO rebuys again, those where my bread and butter.

^^ What skin you playing on Merge?