is 2 2 a good hand?

i read that in 100000 hands heads up 2 2 beat a k more than not....any comments?

pair of ducks - any pair its good enought to see the flop - i ussually dont play it slow coz any one can win then

Pocket 2s, is worth going forward for I would say if the Blinds are very high and no one has raised the pot, but if you dont get any luck on the flop, its not worth going for unless everyone checks or you out bluff them

pocket duces are good if u can get in cheap and see the flop if theres nothing on the flop for u fold them

buckster436

Heads up....a pair of deuces is a monster....any pair heads-up is an absolute monster.

I agree....if I'm in late position I'll make a small raise to the limpers to steal the blinds...
heads up bet 1/2 pot usually works

I only limp in with 22, the odds of hitting a set are not good at all, and any other hand has at least one overcard (95% of the time two). So basically the only time you are a favorite preflop with 22 is if you are heads up against a player with two overcards. If there is a multi-way pot, more possible overcards are added to the mix of the ones that could beat you. Also, any pocket pair absolutely owns 22.

Unless of course you are heads up, or in late position. And whatever you do, don't get cute. That goes for any pocket pair pre-flop.

When ever I have low pocket pairs (2, 3, 4, or 5) I always get suckered in and lose on any hand cuz basically any pair would beat them
That's why i hate low pocket pairs unless you flop a set.

is there any reason to go on with 22-

low pocket pr. after flop?? when you do not hit.

for example-a mim. raise, or lots of

callers, like 5ppl, or maybe if you

think bettor is try to pick up pot??

thanks for any ideas.

donvic

I have done better with 22 then AA. Fact! :'(

pocket 2s is not a very good hand, against terrible players it may be good if u know theyre bluffing or a 2 hits the board.. other than that it sucks

I usually fold pocket 2's unless I am playing heads up. Why spend the blind when you know you will fold after the flop unless you hit another 2 which is rare. I just don't even try to play them. I would rather have a J 10 or 89.

I love a pair of ducks. If your in position and are paying a cheap flop, then you will get good pot odds.

If no set is flopped, then it's an easy fold. When a set does fall (with an ace or king on the board), you will likely win big cash. Hopefully you don't run into a higher set, straight, or flush. I'd bet hard against any potential draws.

heads up might be worth a big bet but in a full ring game in early position (depending on the table) I would probally just let them go. because any card on the board can pretty much pair up and stomp you in the dirt.

2/2 no thank you ...

Dangerous one about the people are thinking oh yeah i got a pair and come in to high.... Just one hit of another and you're screwed....

Don't ever play 22... It's the Death cards... They are the spawn of satan... They will steal food from your children's mouths!!!

I have l;ost so many times with 22 it's not funny... Tried slow playing, tried raising pre flop, the only thing that works for me is tossing them

22 is only good heads up or if you can see a cheap flop and hit a set. Other than that they are pure muck.

with dueces i will usually just call if i am not short stack, and if i hit a set on the flo[p i will stay in otherwiase i am out, if i am short stack i will push all in

I call 2 2 doo-doo for a reason, it's a shitty starting hand. It's worth seeing the flop of course, cuz you never know when that rare trip will appear, but don't pay too much to see the flop. Just remember, anyone at that table could pair anything on the flop and that would immediately beat you--it's tough--pocket pairs are always seductive, but this one always seems to bring me more pain than pleasure.

iono i had pocket 2's not all that good cause they are the lowest cards.... so i profer not to go with them

KA vs 2 2 Is 49% to 51% odds to win, if I'm not mistaken.

KA (Suited) is the best possible non pair hand.

I don't like 2 2.

If you don't get a 2, you're pretty much dead, at least in a 10 person table.

You can't get a higher pair, you can't get a flush unless four of the suit come up, in which case someone else most likely beats your 2 of that suit, you will probably not get a straight.

Of course, it IS a pocket pair, so if I can get in to the flop cheaply, I do.

i love playing 2 2 especially if i can limp into the pot and hope i flop a 2...

In a 10 handed game- With any low pocket pair (2345 for me) I'll call to try to see the flop as follows:
__________________________________________________ ______________
|#_of_Callers_|__>6___|___6___|__5_|__4___|_3,2,1_ |________0________|
|Position_10:_|_2x_bb_|_2x_bb_|_bb_|__bb__|_fold__ _|_Raise_3_or_4x_bb_|
|Position_09:_|_2x_bb_|___bb__|_bb_|__bb__|_fold__ _|_Raise_3_or_4x_bb_|
|Position_08:_|_2x_bb_|___bb__|_bb_|_fold__|_fold_ __|____fold__________|
All other positions, fold.

Sorry for the wierd characters... couldnt figure out how to make it appear formatted normally.
Does this make sense to anyone? Is it a good idea?

I suppose then that 22 vs J10 would be 50% to 50%? given the extended straight outs?

Any pair is a slight favorite to win heads-up against to higher cards. Even dueces.

I think it's a case of the lesser of two evils...

While a pair of deuces is a nice hand, anyone with a 3 higher pair on the flop has got your measure..

I think it's worth seeing the flop, as three 2's is a nice hand and the possibility of a full house is nice...

Be wary of flushes and straights though...

If you are in position play them strong and get others to fold and then hope to hit a set or act like you did.

I think it depends on how many people bet before you, if there are 5 people in the pot you have to think you maybe over matched, but i like to see the flop to attempt to make a set.

jdecost1

I love Ducks! When they hit, they're the best ha d ever, if they don't, well then, you dont pay much to see a flop with em (or at least i don't). With me, I've always made more money than I've lost with deuces.

22 isnt that great a hand anyway you go about it but it is a fav over any two un paired over cards ~ the play would vary form time to time

as a tight player i ALWAYS bluff with 22. people usually put me on Aces when i play em.

I agree with Titan. I always want to see the flop with any pair because if you hit trips you are usually, although not always in for a good payday. Also if you are extremely short stacked it is not a bad idea to risk all your chips on this and hope only one other goes in with the two overcards and doesn't hit. If you are down to that last hope you have a slight advantage over the two overcards. It is something like 54/46. Keep in mind that if your opponent has A K there is no difference between a pair of 2's and a pair of Q's.

i agree. pocket deuces is a crap hand most the time. two-three handed action they may not be too bad depending on what you think the others have. there are just so many hands that you can be beat by and very feww times you can win unless that third two comes.