Working off Noble bonus

How hard is it to work off a Noble bonus guys? I'm thinking about taking advantage of the great 100% deposit bonus Nick has acquired for us and I was thinking of taking about $250 from another site I play at and putting it on Noble, which would give me another $250 in bonus.

I'd really like to know how hard it is to work off that bonus though. If it's going to take me ages, say more than a month or two, I might not do it. Does anyone know from experience how long it takes?

I think I heard Grum talking about working his off. You out there Grum? Be a pal and let me know some info if you are.

Jon

The bonus is worked off by acquiring Crowns - which you can only get from playing ring games - with blinds of at least .25/.50

You don't get any credit for tourneys or sit & go's. As I rarely play the ring games, this isn't a great deal for me. I've played quite a bit (even though I'm not a ring game fan) and I finally earned my first $10. I haven't done well in the ring games either so I spent money earning the bonus. All in all, not a real good deal. I do like their Sit & go's however...

If you played the $1/$2 tables (or higher), which offer the most lucrative Crowns at four per raked hand, you would have to see 12,500 raked hands to clear the entire $250 bonus, in $10 increments for each 500 Crowns gathered.

To break that down into a time line, if you played four hours per day, five days a week, and averaged 50 hands per hour, that's 1,000 hands per week. Which is going to get you 4,000 Crowns. Which is going to release $80 per week in bonus money. So, you would clear your entire bonus in roughly three weeks.

So, in the great scheme of things, I guess that's not too bad.

Took me about 6 weeks to do the $450 bonus so $250 should be doable in about 3

IF you can play the $1/$2 tables and not go broke chasing the bonus!! That's a big "if" for we of questionable talent.

sounds like they changed it then, it was only 3 crowns a hand on the $1/2+ when I did mine

was also 125 crowns per $10 which meant you would have only needed 3125 crowns or 1042 raked hands which is a lot less than rammer suggests.

from his post though it looks like it takes longer to clear but you can get the bonus up to $800 now

Yeah, Grumble, they increased the Crowns to four per hand, but also increased the number needed to release $10 of bonus money to 500 Crowns.

At least, that's the most recent info they've posted on their website. There may be different formats for different bonuses.

Thanks guys. I may consider doing it then. I don't usually play in that high of ring games though. I'm accustomed to .25/.50. I usually do pretty well, but I do have my bad days. I've been heading straight up which is good. I don't know how well I'd fare there though. I don't mind working a month or two for a free $250 I guess, and perhaps more if I do well in the ring games, but I didn't want to do it if it was going to take me forever. Sounds good though.

Let me get this straight though...It used to take 125 crowns for $10, and now it takes 500? That seems crazy. Oh well.

Jon

Noble bonus breakdown.
Here is a breakdown on the Noble bonus.

100% bonus up to $800.

3 months to clear (I don't know whether this is calender months or 90 days I'll fire off an email and report back)

Crowns are awarded to players for each hand in which they participate, as long as the hand is raked, no matter whether the player contributed to the pot by placing a blind or a bet, or whether the player folded.

Crowns are awarded according to the stakes at ring games as listed in the following table:
25c/50c - 1 crown.
50c/$1.00 - 2 crowns.
$1/$2 - 4 crowns.

Bonuses are awarded according to the number of Crowns a player has earned.
500 crowns = $10.00.
700 crowns = 10 euros.
900 crowns = 10 GBP.
(Depending on the exchange rate and the charges involved with your deposit method it may be in your interest to deposit in British pounds, but for the rest of this bonus review I will stick to $US.)

Crown value.
Each crown has a bonus value of $0.02.
Raked hand value.
@ 25/50 - $0.02.
@ 50/1.00 - $0.04.
@ 1/2 - $0.08.
Raked hands per $10.00.
@ 25/50 - 500.
@ 50/1.00 - 250.
@ 1/2 - 125.
Clearence rates.(These figures are based on a small sample of games available when I logged on to noble but will still give you an idea on how to work out clearance rate values).
Limit HE
@ 25/50 avg pot $2.36 very few pots reached the $5.00 rake.
@50/1.00, avg pot $7.22, hands/hour - 60+ @ 6 handed - 48+ @ 10 handed .
6 handed = 60 hands x $0.04 = $2.40 per hour.
10 H = 48 x .04 = $1.92 p/h.
@1/2 avg pot $11.00, hands/hour - 57+ @ 10 handed.(there were no 6 handed games when I logged on)
10 handed = 57 x .08 = $4 56 p/h.

Summary.
This is not a bonus geared to micro limit players and that is fair enough, lets face it companies like noble are in business to make money and make their money from raked hands. So gearing thier bonuses toward rewarding the player that plays at limits more likely to be raked is not such a bad thing. The fact that they do not rake the pot until it reaches $5.00 means the average micro limit holdem player can play just about rake free.
To make the most of this bonus it is probably better to wait until you have $500.00 or more and are confident enough in your game to handle $1/2 limit holdem. Then it is not the worst value on offer. A $500.00 bonus will take 6250 raked hands to clear, at 60 hands an hour this means it will take you 105 hours of play to clear at a rate of just under $5.00 per hour, not bad to get $5.00 an hour to do something you love, Playing Poker.

This is the first time I have done anything remotely like this so any Criticism, questions, comments or feedback will be greatly appreciated.

For those of us who play lower limit poker I am currently experimanting with building a bankroll starting with $50.00 and using bonuses and special offers to see how I can get it to grow to the point where I will be able to take advantage of these larger offers. I should be making my first report on this experiment in 2 or 3 days and as soon as i have run it past the powers that be here at cardschat.
Keep flopping monsters.
Rocka
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Wow, thanks a lot. That's WAY helpful. Maybe I will wait. I usually play NLHE and am better at it than limit...But limit might be the best way of clearing a bonus like that. And there is no doubt 1/2 is the way to go...But maybe I should experiment in some limit hold 'em to be more confident with that before I do that. And maybe I'll give it a little while and deposit more than $250.

Thanks a lot Dman, that was incredibly helpful.

Jon

Remember if you do take advantage of the bonus... use our link. A lot of people have deposited the full amount and sucessfully cleared it. This bonus is aimed at "bonus whores" just as much as normal poker players.

The one thing I've noticed at Noble is there are some very aggressive and very lucky folks in these ring games. For ring games I prefer limit at the .50 or $1 level; however, these tables are generally empty. Everyone wants the bluffing power of no-limit. I have been rivered a bunch at these tables and going in with a large pocket pair is no insurance. I play most of my ring games on Ultimate Bet and Full Tilt, and SNGs at Noble...

There are a lot of really bad players on the $1/2 on noble fyi

Do you think that is a direct effect from forcing depositors in that direction to work off their bonus money? Would a lot of those bad players even be sitting at the 1/2 table if they didn't have to be?

I think Rammer hit the nail on the head. These bad aggressive players are forced to these tables to clear their bonuses. I like the bonus methods much more on UB and FullTilt, I've cleared them through the normal games I play...

I cleared the noble one playing my normal game

i thnik that the bonus they offer you si great, but it is literally quite inpossible to work it off, and maybe they should just give you like an automatic 50% bonus...

thank rocka he did the ground work

Not to put words in his mouth, but I think Dave is referring to being able to clear the bonuses on other sites in tournaments and at the micro tables when he refers to his "normal game". As opposed to his style of play. Not everyone routinely plays the 1/2 tables and higher which Noble and a lot of other sites require. In my opinion, if someone wants to hack out their bonus over a much longer period of time at the small levels, why shouldn't they be allowed to? Herding all bonus hunters onto the big tables just isn't kosher in my book, and it's an obvious attempt on the poker rooms' part to bust the player out so he'll have to make more deposits.

Well its nice that they work it off $10 at a time, rather than say party poker where you either clear the bonus or you don't.

So you can keep earning the bonus intil the time runs out and 3 months is a long time. When you consider they are basically giving you up to $800 for free even managing to get half of that is rather good.

Very true Grum. I hate that about Party and Empire. It's a nice feeling to get it all at once, but if I were trying to clear something as large as $800 it'd be incredibly hard as they usually give you a month to clear bonuses...Thats 4000 raked hands you'd need, which I guess isn't more than like a little over 100 hands a day, but a lot of days I have no time to play and the days when I do play a lot it usually only amounts to around 150-200 hands.

Anyway, it'll be a little longer til I get to try it out. I managed to have an incredibly run of 3 or 4 bad beats that cost me about $130 :P I was mad, but then I went and took a deck of cards and dealt out hands for a little while just to realize that bad beats happen there too. Not like it'll be that hard to get it back at Empire though, everybody is a fish. :P Bet on the river and half the time the person who put $20 into the pot folds when they don't make their flush! I love fish, well until they suck one out.

Jon