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  Poker - Where should beginners start to play poker?
 
  #1  
29-08-2007, 6:29 PM
mar33
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Where should beginners start to play poker?

I am a beginner poker player and after reading more about poker i heard that beginners should start with DRAW POKER. is that true ??
 

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  #2  
29-08-2007, 8:09 PM
KMC1828
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no. not draw poker lol. draw poker is pretty outdated, not many people play it anymore.

i would say start out playing either Hold'Em..Limit Hold'Em that is, not No Limit.

You should also try reading a book or 2. You will mostly find books on Hold'Em, and books on 7 card stud are

here are some of my recommendations:

Getting Started in Hold'Em


Play Poker Like the Pros

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  #3  
29-08-2007, 8:10 PM
juiceeQ
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I think it depends totally on what game you want to focus on. There are so many variations of poker, each with their own twist. Decide what you want to do, then focus on that.

We have a great guide for online No-Limit Hold'em here:
http://www.cardschat.com/poker/guide/
  #4  
30-08-2007, 5:04 AM
tigertight
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limit hold'em and a oldie is still a goodie 7 card stud.... not hi/lo
  #5  
30-08-2007, 11:06 AM
mar33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KMC1828
no. not draw poker lol. draw poker is pretty outdated, not many people play it anymore.

i would say start out playing either Hold'Em..Limit Hold'Em that is, not No Limit.

You should also try reading a book or 2. You will mostly find books on Hold'Em, and books on 7 card stud are

here are some of my recommendations:

Getting Started in Hold'Em


Play Poker Like the Pros

Super System 2

whoa, thanks for the information i am looking at it now and getting excited already...
  #6  
30-08-2007, 3:12 PM
dj11
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Where did you hear that? From dad? He might not understand the world of poker today. Draw is fine, and the fundamentals learned in draw are necessary in every game, but the nuances in draw are not the same, (for the matter the nuances in each variety) and as of today are a seeming dead-end.

For a beginner, and I assume you will start with online poker, start with FREE POKER.

You made a great early decision by coming here. I would suggest you mix lots of reading with an equivalent amount of online play. Read an hour, play an hour. That ratio will fine tune itself and in 2 or 3 months it will be reading 1 hour playing 5 hours. But for every hour read this way, you will advance at an accelerated pace over those who are not reading.

There are situations that took me months to even recognize before I started reading. I could have learned those situations in my first hour reading.;
  #7  
30-08-2007, 3:14 PM
pigpen02
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OOOOOO! I have my ratio backwards!
  #8  
31-08-2007, 10:06 AM
mar33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dj11
Where did you hear that? From dad? He might not understand the world of poker today. Draw is fine, and the fundamentals learned in draw are necessary in every game, but the nuances in draw are not the same, (for the matter the nuances in each variety) and as of today are a seeming dead-end.

For a beginner, and I assume you will start with online poker, start with FREE POKER.

You made a great early decision by coming here. I would suggest you mix lots of reading with an equivalent amount of online play. Read an hour, play an hour. That ratio will fine tune itself and in 2 or 3 months it will be reading 1 hour playing 5 hours. But for every hour read this way, you will advance at an accelerated pace over those who are not reading.

There are situations that took me months to even recognize before I started reading. I could have learned those situations in my first hour reading.;
i have started playing online poker already (on facebook mainly with friends) and cannot help but wondering if online poker really feels like poker, with all the programming behind it since it is a computer software... what do you think?
  #9  
01-09-2007, 2:57 PM
Kenzie 96
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On line poker feels like on line poker. Biggest differences probably are the number of hands played & the fact that you have little or no knowledge of your opponents. I have found the games I play on a regular basis with members of this forum to be quite similar to games I used to play live with friends, except for the accents & the higher quality of play.
  #10  
05-09-2007, 3:14 AM
DaFrench1
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Best advice

The best advice on here was definitely start with free poker. There are enough sites and enough free-rolls running so that you can play poker at any time of day, and you are also able to try out different flavours of poker without any damage to your wallet. Its kind of inevitable that you lose money as a beginner. I would say generally this is mainly caused by wanting to be part of the action and therefore playing too many hands. You need to get this out of your system first before playing for money and spend this time learning to read boards and betting patterns, only a mountain of 'bad beats' will help you understand all that is possible in hold'em. If you're still in one piece mentally after all that and are starting to earn loose change from free-rolls then i would say you are ready to consider depositing your hard earned.

With regards to the draw poker. Its definitely dead in the water for on-line playing, but I certainly learnt how to play the game through nickle and dime games as a kid. Hard to say whether its made me a better player or not but I'm not doing too bad so far.
  #11  
05-09-2007, 4:48 PM
artofsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mar33
i have started playing online poker already (on facebook mainly with friends)
there is poker on facebook? wow i dont have a facebook account so cant comment but if you're looking for really good 'play money' games (just to get you started) i would recommend full tilt , as it has a massive selection of play money games/SNGs.
  #12  
05-09-2007, 6:34 PM
Berra2k
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Honestly, I would try to start playing poker where I think most people started. Not online - but with a group of freinds in person with maybe a low buy-in. Doesnt anyone you know have poker nights? That's where you should probably learn to pick up the game as you wont be risking too much in your wallet.
  #13  
05-09-2007, 10:43 PM
jolubman
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mar33
I am a beginner poker player and after reading more about poker i heard that beginners should start with DRAW POKER. is that true ??

Draw as is seven card stud is all but dead. In the new world, it's all Texas Hold'em. I'm told in Europe they play a lot of Omaha.
  #14  
06-09-2007, 12:32 AM
Egon Towst
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There are some sites, particularly the European networks like Prima and B2B, where there is a hard core of Draw players. Apparently, the Scandinavians still go in for it.

Even on those sites, though, there are usually 10 times as many players playing Holdem.
  #15  
08-09-2007, 9:46 AM
OzExorcist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jolubman
Draw as is seven card stud is all but dead. In the new world, it's all Texas Hold'em. I'm told in Europe they play a lot of Omaha.
I wouldn't go as far as saying stud is a dead game - there's still plenty of stud events in the World Series, and three of the five rounds of HORSE are stud games.

There's not a lot of arguments for becoming the world's best standard draw poker player these days - about the only draw games that get played any more are the deuce-seven games. But more than enough people still play stud to make it worthwhile learning the game.
  #16  
08-09-2007, 6:52 PM
SilentJay
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Canbet Poker has $250 freerolls for 5 Card Draw, if anyone is interested...
  #17  
08-09-2007, 7:20 PM
Goldog
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Triple Draw is going to get big soon. A Lowball game in SSII.

goldog
  #18  
08-09-2007, 7:20 PM
SPANKYSN
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any poker site is good for beginners. Just gettin to the table and having experiance, and learning from mistakes is the best way to start.
  #19  
16-10-2007, 11:01 AM
mar33
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hi, thanks for the infos, i have started playing already and have not being here for quite sometime but i am back...
  #20  
16-10-2007, 4:16 PM
dj11
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Welcome back mar.

We all hope you have read all of these StrategyArticles

We also hope you are in the phase all beginners should go through of playing as many hands as you can. Cheaply, but better would be free.

You need to get a lot of hands under your belt, A WHOLE lot! 100,000 hands sound like a lot of hands but when many of your online opponents have over a million hands under their belts, you can see where experience will come into the factoring.

How fast can one get to 100,00 hands? I played a sng last night, about 100 hands, took about 90 minutes. I only single tabled it. Many multi-table (several games going on in different windows at the same time). Rumors are some play over 10 tables at a time. I can only fit 4 on my monitor.

So lets say I play about 100 hands a night, 365 days a year, single tabling.

36500 per year. Trust me, I play much more than that. I only played that one sng last night. It is not uncommon for any of us to be playing 5 hours, or much more per day. It is not so uncommon for many players to be playing several tables at once. So 100,000 hands per year online is not something anyone should snicker at. I'm sure there are those serious players who would say they do that in a month.

Point is, you are at that stage, where assuming you are reading voraciously, you need to be playing hands.

Play them free till you feel really comfortable beating them regularly.
  #21  
16-10-2007, 5:34 PM
chiefer77
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it's been said before but you can't stress it enough. READ, READ, READ. play as much as you read. there are some basics that you should learn inside and out such as position and pot odds. learn the math!

it truley is amazing the things you will learn just by reading this forum. i've read this forum everyday for almost a year now and it has improved my game beyond measure.

ask questions. we are all here to help. many of the members here are very accomplished players. take advantage of that.
 



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