What's your view of Paradise?

I don't know if paradise is rigged but it sure seems that way at times, especially when it's all in and you have a better hand before flop and lose.

Another thing about the torunaments is the all ins. Ever notice that ten minutes into the game (350 players) there are about 50 out. There are some poor palyers and it can be frustrating but be patient.

I like Paradise. There freerolls are what got me hooked on online poker. It seems like all of the sites are rigged at some point.

One thing that really annoys me about paradise is the fact in the tournament it doesn't show the amounts people have bet on the table unles you mouse over them. Even then it takes a good few seconds for the tooltip with the amount to pop up.

I like to have that info as soon as poss so I can decide the best way to play my hand.

Paradise is where I started playing online poker, I have had about equal success and failures there. I have had ALOT of bad beats, but that's gonna happen anywhere, whether or not there are more bad beats than there should be I don't know.

I think that most of the bad beats come from players playing hands they "shouldn't" not so much on what the software is.

For example the beat I took that stands out the most in my mind.

Playing a low limit game, I have pocket AA, I raise preflop, 2 people call. The flop comes no help to my hand but no scare cards (don't remember the exact flop). One player bets, I raise again another player calls, then the original bettor folds. The turn comes, is a 2, again based on whats on the board, not really a scare card, I bet, the next person person calls. The river comes, is an 8. Again, not much reason for me to think I am beat, I do only have AA but no flush or strt possibilities. I bet the other person raises, thinking maybe they hit trip 8s I just call instead of raise (have too much in the pot to bail incase they are just trying to take down the pot).

Turn the hands over, I have a pair of A's, they have 2 pair...8's and 2's. There is no way that person should have been in the hand. Calling a raise preflop with 8-2 isn't a good play, then to call another raise on the flop with no help at all, and yet again to call a bet with just bottom pair on the turn are just stupid plays. Granted any 2 cards can win, but there are just some cards you aren't "supposed" to play.

I like paradise. It's my second favorite room after Party.

The only rooms where it seemed like something bad was going on was bodog NL games and pacific. But after thinking about it, I believe it is because those sites have a sportsbook & casino, respectively. This leads to very loose games.

when there are 5+ people seeing the flop, the best hand at the begining is usually only 30% to win the pot. Too bad neither supported Poker Tracker when I played there, I could've analyzed the hands.

I like Paradise, but then again it's the only site I've tried so far...

I've played a bunch of sites, and they are all the same when it comes to being "rivered". I happen to prefer the set up at Paradise, but I think that all the sites ARE truly random when it comes to dealing. We just all hate the bad beats and blame the site, when really it's our play or just pure luck.

I played on paradise for a few months. I agree that they have great sofware, however they don;t have many good players. I like players that are willing to bet a lot. The average pot sizes at paradise poker are usally small.

I like Paradise. Yes I have been beat just like everyone else. I remember one hand that I had JJ in the hole and 3 3's flopped. I don't remember how much I bet, but then a J on the turn, so I have JJJ33. Best hand right? Of course I thought I had the nuts and I know I bet big. He stays. What happens, another 3 flops for four of a kind and he's holding KQ. Or the time when I flopped a A-5 str8. He bets, I go all in. He calls. He's holding K-2 offsuit. The board 4 flushes and he beats me.

The list goes on......

But I like the site. I haven't really tried any other. I have played others, but like Paradise best.

I think a pocket pair are not all that great in texas holdem as you seem to get beat most of the time but it still is nice to have a high pair before the flop.

I played my first game last night at paradise and came fifth. This is a pretty good game. It was a limit game but only took about two hours. Evertone should try it.

What were u playing i know u said NL but did u play in the sit-n-go tables or did u play at the multi tables or in the bigger turney's?

As no stranger to poker tournaments I've talked to thousands of players and the most common statement is "I get rivered all the time at this site".

Most always say how they were cheated by old man river, you rarely if ever hear from a player about the great come-from-behind win after the turn.

As people we tend to always focus on the negatives instead of the positives in everything we do in life so poker is no exception to the rule.

Paradise is one of a dozen sites I actively play and enjoy from time to time. Trust me when I say no one is out to get you. Case in point, next time you feel a site is doing you an injustice whip out a pen and start marking the good to the bad on the river.

Its always one for one, one player is happy and the other sad. They always cancel themselves out.

I have played on lots of sites. I think I like Paradise best of all. There are lots of choices and it is a great site for learning. They have small 2 cent tables and you can buy in for as little as $.40. As you start to learn, you can move up on the tables. They have good graphics and lots of specials. Their deposit bonus is not the best though.

I have only played at Paradise and Party Poker I like Paradise set up a lot better, I have also drowned on the river.

I play at paradise and i have only made money when i play in the no limit tourneys and heads up. The best tourneys to play are the $20 and up, less then that it is just recklass. the cash games seem to have miracle cards left and right.

I love Paradise Poker....i love the site and how it runs.......i never see as many bad beats on there as i do say for instance...PokerStars....paradise is the grandma of onlinepoker.....and everyone loves there grandma

paridise is a great site nice people and great tournies 2 bad things are

1.bad graphics
2.every so often youll run into phcyos who curse every 10 seconds

Well paradise is where I usually play and I love it.

hey man I really like paradise poker but your right way to many winners on the river also there is way way to many 4 of a kinds its a prettyu crazy

I'm afraid I fail to understand your recommendation for paradise.

I have played, with money, on many sites and I'm afraid to say paradise was the worst.. the people that improve their bankroll are agressive, and if you are aggressive then go ahead, but when trying to mix conservative play with aggressive is impossible due to the algorithm..

For those who know, and dont, the cards generated are through a "random" algorithm, but even though its unhackable, it has an undiscoverable pattern becuase nothing is completely random... And i mean NOTHING, especially not computers... Certain programs have better algorithms and paradise's is VERY poor for the decent player with mixed up play. It suits one style of play the best, but to be a pr0 or make a lot of money in top expensive tournys, it doesn't work!

There are too many "river bad beats" in paradise. I know luck suggests it happens on all programs, and I know ive had some pretty bad ones elsewhere, once with a less than 1% chance, but that is unlucky. With paradise, you start off with 56, flop is 742, if you go to river, your going to win. End. THe problem with that is when oyu have AA, slow play or small raise, and u see that flop, you may think your in so put a lot of $$ in but uve lost....

Paradise is poor. They do VERY Good freerolls which i continue to enter, but for money there is better! Bet365.com is the best for SnG's! Ive entered 10 $5 ones and won them alll....

For ring games they're alright.. Ultimate bet are the best for limit ring games though. That has a professional algorithm designed by the likes of Annie Duke and Hellmuth and devilfish. If they think its good, its good.. simple as that... fair enough they get paid lots but they wont play there just to lose will they now....

Hope my comments are appreciated and not total b**lox

i like paradise the most.
the reasons?
1. very proffesional (shuffling algorythm, security issues...)
2. good looking interface
3. pro players

I have only played at Paradise so far but am getting disenchanted with them. They have owed me $10 in bonus money for a while now, and I have sent them email after email to no avail.

Man did i get rivered today in the wsop on paridise.I was getting low and went all in on my pocket queens one guy called he had ace four offsuit the flop didn't help either hand.Then the turn four,then the river four ouch that stung but i guess thats poker....or i could just blame it on the computer shuffeling..lol

Haha... My FIRST poker playing site= Paradise Poker.. I think I regret that after depositing there.. In the end I always lost.. Wish I woulda been able to read this before I did.. " Most shark infested site "... " HORRIBLE players ".. " Small pots ".. I mean.. it seems as though the majority of poeple on the internet play at Paradise.. which must mean.. that YOU. ( some of you reading this ) are the sharks... Well. w/e the case.. can anyone reccomend another site.. that DOESN'T mess up your computer with a number of freerolls and good players? .. Thanks Dylan

You DEF. seem to know what your talking about there.. but then again.. I def. think that happens on some sites.. all the time.. Since you probably play on Paradise more often.. thats probably why you see that.

I see many comments about paradise (positive & negative). There is only one way to get away from all ins on nothing and winning on the river card when you play nothing. Play the more expensive tournaments. There are still some crazies but not to many.

Yup, I know it's dumb to play a site for the graphics, but I like them. And there are sites I avoid because their graphics are so stupid (yes, please, I want to be the fat, balding, poker guy, please, can I????), so why not play this one cause they're cool.

i thought paradise was good untill i got kicked off in the middle of a 1800 dollar pot i was very up set and too boot i got a 7 of dimonds and a 3 of clubs 8 times yes i said 8 times in a row now come on how real is that it isnt its bs

If you like to play more than one game at a time then at Paradise you can now play three tables at one time. Then you can get burned on the river three times.

The bouncing back and forth has happend to me a numberous of times and I see it very often, specially in tournaments.
My favorite scenario in tournaments; two people got pocket pair, both are allin, then one of them hit trips at the flop (Usually the guy with lower pair), then at the river the other guy hit trips and win.
These stuff makes you suspscious, especially when it happens now and then..

My view of Paradise - Shana Hiatt in a bikini

Oh the site, ahem,

Have only played for a short while there but it seems quite good and it has 5 card draw which i dont think i come across elsewhere

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Some of my friends are saying this is a great site so i'm going to try it. I let you know.

There are so many poker sites now that you just need to find a couple that suit you and forget the rest. Otherwise you may go nuts as they all have there uos and downs

Paradise, by far, has the best "look" for a poker site.

I generally do well at the tables there too - we all get bad rivers at every site, part of the game. Seems to happen more often - or more noticible - when it happens to you.

~pako

The reason why there are conspiracy theories is because commons sense tells us that if you play a few thousand hands on one site and the results are COMPLETELY different than on another site, theres something crooked going on. I see literally at least three times and many 2 pairs, straights and flushes on the river in Paradise than I do in Royal Vegas. The odds of that happening so many times out of thousands of hands is probably less than lighning striking me. Whats worse is that not only are half of your hands 2 pair or better, but they are then beat more than half of the time in the end.

Last night I played a mini-tournament and won so this vindicates my feelings about the river a bit, but you still see to many bad ones.

I played partypoker when I first started but was not crazy about the set up that is why I downloaded Paradise. Though I am not always happy about some things I do like it much more.