what are the % of a connected suiter improving..

#1 25th May 2010, 10:26 AM

what are the odds of a connected suiter improving on the flop?
I want to know...
1) % of getting 2 suited on flop or open ender or flush or straight or 2 pairs (forgot)

Please don't give me "you shouldn't be playing this" or "it doesn't matter" because it just can and i just want the %

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#2 25th May 2010, 10:47 AM

This provides some of the info you're looking for, and shows you how to calculate the rest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_p...s_hold_'em)

#3 25th May 2010, 11:56 AM

I like suited connectors if I can see a cheap flop or raise on the button. If you miss, they're easy to get away from and if they hit you can cash in. Just remember that your odds only improve by 4% if your cards are suited, so don't get excited about hands like K 4 suited.

#4 26th May 2010, 8:01 AM

use the rule of 4 & 2. on the flop, you have roughly 32% chance to hit on the TURN AND RIVER and 16% chance to hit on the river with OESD. with a FD you have roughly 32% chance to hit on TURN OR RIVER and about 18 % chance to hit on the river. take your outs, & multiply by 4 on the flop, and by 2 going to the river. these numbers are not exact but within like 1-2%, and this % is the % your equity in the hand.

#5 26th May 2010, 8:03 AM

oh and two pair, is not even worth chasin most of the time becase it"s like 6-12% chance by the river.

#6 26th May 2010, 10:16 AM

Read an article in the WPT Poker magazine a while back, which said that the number of times you flop something and beat AA (including flopping draws which then hit) is 6.7%, so if the implied odds are 15/1 then you have implied odds to call them in if you think the opponent has a very strong hand

#7 26th May 2010, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pascal LeFiscal

Read an article in the WPT Poker magazine a while back, which said that the number of times you flop something and beat AA (including flopping draws which then hit) is 6.7%, so if the implied odds are 15/1 then you have implied odds to call them in if you think the opponent has a very strong hand

That has to be impractical, there are always going to be bets on the flop/turn etc. so you have to assume you'll know the betting on the flop/turn to play by those implied odds!

That said, noone answered the OP, I'd like to know as well

#8 26th May 2010, 2:49 PM

I think the odds of outflopping aces with a made hand is about 5% You've also got to remember that if you flop something like top pair, flush draw, and a backdoor straight, or a straight draw and a flush draw, you'll have good equity against aces

#9 26th May 2010, 3:15 PM

How much is too much to commit with something like an open-ended straight draw and flush draw? Or even open ended straight flush draw? I seem to run into these hands all the time. I usually end up over-commiting and going broke.

#10 26th May 2010, 3:24 PM

Opened ended straight flush draw vs aces, let's take 78dd as an example:

Board: 6d 9d Kh

Hand 0: {8d7d} 52.626%
Hand 1: {AcAd} 47.374%

With a flush draw and top pair:

Board: 6dJd9h

Hand 0: {8d9d) 51.5%
Hand 1: {AcAd} 48.5%

Both of those give him the Ad too, which will take a little bit off your equity.

HTH

#11 26th May 2010, 4:19 PM

apologies, self-pimpage: You donk, you bet a draw!!!

Note that whether you're the aggressor or playing passively has an impact on whether you'll actually win the hand.

#12 26th May 2010, 5:33 PM

2% of flopping two pairs, 1% of flopping the flush and 1.3% of flopping the straight. As far as draws, just get on the odds calculator and see what odds your two cards get against any given holdings, then add 3%ish to account for them being suited.

#13 27th May 2010, 1:00 AM

Use this calculator if you don't have it yet:

http://www.cardschat.com/poker-odds-calculator.php

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