If you are playing 1 or 2 tables (3 or 4 for players who can process more info faster) I would agree with your sentiment. But we're talking about multi-tabling where you are purposefully handicapping yourself.
The handicap of multi-tabling will be greater if you lack the capacity to process information quickly. If you can process lots of information quickly then multi-tabling is extremly benifical $ wise(refer to AG's post).
I understand that what you are meaning is the amount of info you can have at any particular time. That is why multi-tablers use as many of the tools available to them as posssible. They use PAHud, Poker Tracker, Poker assistant etc. These tools effectively enable them to watch whats going on at a table while not actually physically watching it.
When you are managing multiple tables; your ability to make moves, make accurate reads and keep you finger on the ebb and flow of a table has been compromised. As result, you cannot play at the same level as you can with fewer tables. Reading your opponents to determine whether they are TAG's or Calling Stations can be hard but is tremendously difficult when multi-tabling (to say the least). Now using an application such as Poke Ace HUD will help, but even then your only able to get a quick glance at the numbers for a minimum amount of insight as to you opponents intention as to why he acted the way he did before you have to act.
In my expierence if you use a good PAHud layout, a quick glance at the numbers is all it takes to figure out wether villian is TAG, LAG or whatever. Infact in pokertracker you can assign players a player icon, which is where you give them an icon relating to their playing style based on the actual statistics of their play. This method is probably more sound than the method of most(gross generalisation here) single tablers who simply see that a player is raising alot of hands and therefore assign him a LAG stlye.
An example of this is a player who raises 2/3 hands at a 6max table preflop, but once the flop hits he is ver nitiesh and only plays top 2 pair or better and TPTK folding all other hands. This player may appear LAG because of his high pf aggression factor, whilst he is more along the Loos-passive because he is very weak/selective post flop, and generally wins most showdowns he see's. Using PT stats, which almost no person is able to pick up at whilst single tabling without the aid of a computer program, you could then assign an icon to this playr with a description of something like LG/TP, which means Loose-aggressive preflop/Tight aggressive postflop. So from a glance you would know that you can often take posts down with postflop aggression against this player and if he shows an interest postflop to stay well away.
If you multi-table and continue to play the same way you do with one table you are either (1) going to loose money in the long run because you'll routinely find yourself overlooking important bits of information you need to make that big lay-down or (2) a BOT player.
So you are saying that if i play TAG at one table, then i shift to playing 6 tables and still play tag with the same VPIP and Aggression factor then i am going to loose money no matter what or alternatively be incredibly easy to read?
To be incredibly easy to read a plyer needs to have a large amount of hands played against me to be able to make very good reads and his reads will very very rarely be absolute with leaves a margin of human error. He also needs to be a good player who pays close attenetion to every single opponent all the time. Therefore unless you play regularly at the same stakes and with the same people then it is unlikely that you will have anyone who can read easily unless you have some massive tell like typing you hole cards into the chatbox at the start of every hand and never lying about them.
To avoid routinely over looking bits of information whilst multi-tabling you simply need to play in position alot more unless you have very good cards. By being in position ie last to act, you get the maximum amount of information availiable to you, and unless it some miniscule tell then it is rare that a good multi-tabler will overlook the information given as they can process the information given faster therefore allowing them to play more tables.
I guess what im trying to say is that multi-tablers have the ability to process the information given at a faster rate than single tablers(whilst i am not sayin single tablers dont have that ability, they just dont utilize it by multi-tabling). The faster your ability to process the information given the more tables you can handle playing whilst still managing to play profitably and play well.
But, I almost never suck out as a result of tilt.
The whole definition of tilt is playing emotionally and badly. What you are saying here is that when you tilt you are usually putting your money in ahead? There that wouldnt be tilt right?
leaving when you gain a chip advantage on your opponents is what's really ridiculous.
The only way a big chipstack helps you in a cashgame is to add to the implied
odds against another big chipstack. The cons of having a big chipstack IMO out weigh the pros. Risking a high % of your BR in one hand is effectively bad BR management, im not talking about just doubling your original buy-in im refering to have 3-5x the original buyin at one table.
Again, this logic is somewhat sound if you have your full arsenal at your disposal, but when you are multi-tabling you don't. So the logic you are sharing there is flawed. But while I am here I'll add that rebuying on a table where you have just been sucked out on is generally not a good idea because (1) your table image has been impaired, (2) you are likely to be on tilt and (3) your opponents will know you are likely to be on tilt and will attack you accordingly. Remaining at a table after being sucked out on is akin to putting a big Bulls-eye on your back more often then not.
in reply to point 1) True
2) Not true, avoiding tilt is the key here, a good player shouldt tilt on a bad beat unless it was like a 1 outer or something.(well thats it usually takes for me to tilt).
3) Therefore if your not on tilt then you can utilize their over aggression towards you and make more money than if you went to a different table where they wernt "attacking" you.
I think the problem here is that you took my statement and applied it to your standard game where you are playing one or two tables max. Obviously that statement doesn't fit in a regular game unless you are a Tight Passive player (I don't believe either one of us would fit that category). If you re-think it in terms of multi-tabling and the handicap that you are forced to play under as result I think you'll understand what I was getting at. If not, then I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.
my regular game is 16tabling $25NL. i am TAG my VPIP is 12 and agression factor is 4. Preflop raise is 8.
agree to disagree looks likely. Yet its still fun to have these debates.